Re: The Still-Persistent Myth of the World Flood

On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:08:03 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 11/3/24 8:05 AM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

The timing is off by orders of magnitude, but it did happen when the Atlantic
opened up and the Alps-Apallachians folded upwards.

 
   Ummmmm ... were barely any mammals back then. They
   looked like shrews.
 
   The Appalachians formed because the spread of the
   Atlantic put pressure there. The Alps formed (and
   are still forming) because the African plate is
   pushing up and under Europe. Someday, no more Med.

Most people don't get "deep time".

 
 

Is it possible some
pre-human people actually had a memory of this they passed down orally?

 
   PRE-human ? You're talking just the past maybe 3 million
   years there. That's barely a blink in geo time.

The oldest remembrances we have are from the beginning of the
"stone-age": that Jawbone of an Ass we used to genocide the
Hyenas of Africa (and conquer Jericho ;) is at least 3 million YA.

 
   As said, there no doubt WERE huge floods as the ice-age
   quickly ended. Early civs, and story trees, already
   existed. The floods weren't all at the same time and
   certainly did NOT cover the world. However the whole
   of the, say, Tigris/Euphrates flood plain MAY have
   turned into a big lake for awhile. That would have
   SEEMED to be a 'world flood' to anyone there. It'd
   be a compelling story, likely to stick.
 
   Genetic archeology however does NOT show any especially
   large human DNA bottleneck from that time. MOST people
   did NOT get flooded away. However seacoast settlements
   had to be abandoned, moved much further inland, as the
   overall sea level rose. LOTS of archeology to be had,
   under 300' of ocean.
 

And
the Caucasian peoples did originate in the Cavcas Mts where Mt Ararat does
have what seems as Noah's Ark. Iranian and Armenian are the proto Cavcasian,
aka IndoEuropean, languages.

 
   Well, 'caucasians' and friends are hardly the whole
   of Humanity.
 
   However Caucs and Semites DID write down the old
   stories eventually - the ones we find in various
   religious texts from in and around the Levant and
   Mesopotamia. Adding a 'religion' angle made the
   stories all the more 'sticky'.

About right.

Dhu



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