Sujet : Re: about destructive consequences
De : campbell (at) *nospam* neotext.ca (Dhu on Gate)
Groupes : talk.politics.misc alt.russian.z1 alt.politics can.politicsSuivi-à : can.politicsDate : 28. Apr 2025, 20:19:09
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:24:53 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
Dhu on Gate, <news:vunfgu$1velj$3@dont-email.me>
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:20:43 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
Six centuries is too much. The British big animosity towards
Russia arose in the post-Napoleonic time.
Over four hundred, anyways. Originally started up with
Ivan the Terrible taxing/controlling Russian fur going *out*
the Baltic to England and points further south: Big Money
taken outta the English fur trade.
...
But by the early 1600s there was as much fur coming out of
Canada as all the Russias, and France and England fought
over it's control for over three hundred years. New Amsterdam
was *founded* on fur smuggled out of Quebec: the Arctic climate
requisite for good fur comes south *furthest* in Canada.
Little known today, but in the 16-18 centuries, in Europe, the
Russian-produced leather was considered premium-exclusive luxury
good (Westerners mastered similar techniques since 19 century).
Automating/mechanizing these production technologies was an English
forte: *Imitation* Italian or Russian goods made by machines.
Intellectual Property was a delusion to England's Pirates ;-)
Dhu
Also the early Russia-England trade wasn't about fur only.
-- Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais. C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris. Vix ea nostra voco. (<<< we'd like to forget! ;-) Duncan Patton a Campbell