Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”

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Date : 07. Jun 2024, 20:15:29
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Ted Nolan wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote:
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote:
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???Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series???
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https://discoverscifi.com/the-top-10-space-opera-books-and-series-of-all-time/
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8. Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds - I have never read the series
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We both should read it. :-)
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6. The Culture Series by Iain M. Banks - I have never read the series
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You should rectify that.
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4. Triplanetary by E.E. "Doc" Smith - this is on my reread list
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You can't talk about space opera without Doc Smith, but this is an
odd choice.  Why a single novel and not the whole Lensman series?
And if you select an exemplary novel, _Galactic Patrol_ would be
my pick.
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1A. The Foundation Series by Issac Asimov - yes
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Whut!??  That's no space opera.
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What genre is Foundation then ?
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SF?

"What's seen can not be unseen"

"What's done can not be undone" - _Macbeth_ (1606)

"Things done can not be undone"
  - Francis Bacon's Promus of Formularies and Elegancies (1596)



    [Foundation] is a story about social engineering. A mathematician
    and a group of academic intellectuals decide to save civilization
    by manipulating history, and their plan leads to a Second Empire.
    The idea of giving votes to plebeians simply never comes up.

    _Transhuman and Subhuman_ (Wright)

Did Asimov and Campbell create _Foundation_'s psychohistory as an
allegory for Kenesian economics and Baconian scientism, without
realizing it?

    Sociological propaganda springs up spontaneously; it
    is not the result of deliberate propaganda action.
    No propagandists deliberately use this method,
    though many practice it unwittingly, and tend in this
    direction without realizing it. When the American
    producer makes a film, he has certain definite ideas
    he wants to express, which are not intended to be
    propaganda. Rather, the propaganda element is in the
    American way of life with which he is permeated and
    which he expresses in his film without realizing it.
    We see here the force of expansion of a vigorous
    society, which is totalitarian in the sense of the
    integration of the individual which leads to
    involuntary behavior.

    _Propaganda_ (Ellul)

Danke,

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 May 24 * “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”35Lynn McGuire
31 May 24 +* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”15ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
1 Jun 24 i+* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”4Lynn McGuire
1 Jun 24 ii`* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”3ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
1 Jun 24 ii `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”2Titus G
1 Jun 24 ii  `- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
1 Jun 24 i+* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”9Michael F. Stemper
2 Jun 24 ii+* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”7Paul S Person
2 Jun 24 iii+- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
3 Jun 24 iii`* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”5Michael F. Stemper
3 Jun 24 iii +* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”3Chris Buckley
3 Jun 24 iii i`* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”2Michael F. Stemper
10 Jun 24 iii i `- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Robert Carnegie
3 Jun 24 iii `- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Paul S Person
3 Jun 24 ii`- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Cryptoengineer
4 Jun 24 i`- Re: Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series1Scott Dorsey
1 Jun 24 +- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Tony Nance
1 Jun 24 +* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”2WolfFan
10 Jun 24 i`- Re: âTop 10 Space Opera Books and Seriesâ1Robert Carnegie
1 Jun 24 +- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
1 Jun 24 +* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”8William Hyde
1 Jun 24 i`* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”7Lynn McGuire
2 Jun 24 i `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”6William Hyde
2 Jun 24 i  `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”5Michael F. Stemper
2 Jun 24 i   +- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Robert Woodward
2 Jun 24 i   `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”3William Hyde
10 Jun 24 i    `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”2Robert Carnegie
19 Jun 24 i     `- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1William Hyde
2 Jun 24 `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”7Christian Weisgerber
3 Jun 24  `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”6Lynn McGuire
3 Jun 24   `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”5ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
7 Jun 24    `* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”4Don
7 Jun 24     +* Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
7 Jun 24     i`- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1Michael F. Stemper
8 Jun 24     `- Re: “Top 10 Space Opera Books and Series”1William Hyde

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