Re: Let Me Show Yous How To Print

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De : sc (at) *nospam* fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date : 28. Sep 2024, 23:00:14
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Le 28-09-2024, Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> a écrit :
On 28 Sep 2024 16:44:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
 
All GNU/Linux software should produce PostScript output for
printing.
 
Why? You are shooting things without argument. Why is PostScript better
than everything else? For example, when you want to print a picture why
should it be converted to PostScript? If your software is a bad quality
one, the output will be shit whichever format you chose.
>
You are a total idiot.

Yes, we both know that. From a long time. You repeat yourself. You
granted me so many badges of honor that I have no more room to put this
new one on my wall of fame.

And, by the way, can you improve a little bit? Do you know only one word
for insulting? I'm trying to improve my English and reading always the
same word over and over again, which is the same in French, doesn't help.

PostScript is the lingua franca of Unix, and hence GNU/Linux.

Do you really understand the meaning of every single word you are using
in this sentence? Because I do and this sentence means nothing. I
believe you can impress some little child, but to impress me, you'll
need to do way much better.

Postscript is either used to be printed or to be displayed on a screen.
But never between computers to exchange data. You can exchange
PostScript documents between computers, but the computers don't need to
be able to interpret them to do that, so it's not the same thing.

Unix in general and Linux in particular are never using PostScript
internally to convert it in the printer format in the end. They know
nothing about PostScript and use tools that can use, or not, PostScript
internally.

There are printers that print PostScript directly,

Yes, and there are printers that can't. So what?

but otherwise the PostScript file,

Yes, otherwise, you uselessly converted a file into PostScript to be
later converted into the format understood by the printer. So, you
explained you did a useless thing. Great job.

which is created by all GNU/Linux,

Once again, it is nonsense. Linux is using external tools to convert
into PostScript format, but only when it's needed when the end-user is
smart.

will require a conversion program, or driver, to translate PostScript
commands into the specific printer commands.

OK, so even you understood you did something you don't even know if it's
useful. You want the tiniest kernel possible, but if you stop doing
useless things just because you believe you can do it, you'll realise
it's not as important as your claims. You are loosing a lot of time in
trying to improve your kernel just to be able to waste ressources asking
it to do unneeded stuff.

If you don't want to fuck around with drivers then just purchase
a PostScript printer.

Or let the well designed tools do the job. The only place where it's
difficult to print a document today is in your computer. Try to figure
out why.

And yes, PostScript is used to print images as well.

I'm not asking you if you can use PostScript to print images. I know it
can. A long time ago to be able to insert images inside a LaTeX document
was to convert it in .eps. But it was a long time ago. It's not
requested anymore. So, I'm asking you what it brings to an image to be
converted into PostScript before being printed.

So please, shut your fat ignoramus mouth.

I do what I want, and it's not a first class moron who will tell me what
to do.

You know NOTHING about how printing is accomplished with GNU/Linux.
Nothing.

Once again, you know nothing about me, about what I can do or what I
can't do. But the subject is not there. It's about your claims, and you
try to speak about me because you are unable to speak about printing.

Furthermore, LibreOffice *can* produce high quality documents,

No. There is nothing to argue about that. It's, typographically
speaking, garbage and nothing can be done about it. So as the purpose of
a document is to be read, not to be displayed on a wall, there is
nothing more to say.

but usually LaTeX DVI is converted to PostScript and then printed.

Not anymore. Modern LaTeX engines can directly produce pdf which can be
directly displayed without the need to be converted multiple times. And
the printed process is not as useful as it was in the past.

In GNU/Linux, all printing is done via PostScript.

No. CUPS was using PostScript to print documents in the past. Not
anymore. Now it's using pdf internally. So if the printer doesn't
understand PostScript, it's never used.

You can use tool which are using PostScript internally, but there is
nothing mandatory about it.

So shut the fuck up.

Once again: I do what I want. You can brag as long as you want, you are
unable to force me to do something.

If I am wrong, which I am not,

You are always wrong. That's a simple well known fact.

then explain, in detail, how printing is accomplished in GNU/Linux.

It depends on the tools you are using. A good one is CUPS, but as you
refuse to hear about it, it's useless to talk to you about it.

But you cannot.

No, I can't. Your inability to understand simple things is beyond my
capacity to explain you the computer's basics.

So shut the fuck up.

I do what I want. And I wont take advices from someone unable to pass
the Turing test.

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