Re: OT: The Robots are coming.

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De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
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Date : 11. Dec 2024, 10:43:42
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

In article <c0fe9880-f1f0-1b6c-678b-3d703cce37e8@example.net>,
D  <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:
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On 12/10/2024 3:38 AM, D wrote:
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
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On 12/9/2024 1:21 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 12/9/2024 1:38 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
I know for many it's politically correct to crap on anything Elon Musk
is involved in these days, but its worth keeping up with his companies
accomplishments.
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Here's his robot, walking over uneven terrain, up and downhill, and
recovering from slips:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwiLIIWd-k
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I admit it walks like a drunk, but the progress is remarkable.
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There's also videos showing it catching a tossed ball one-handed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswIwg3lxpo
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There is competition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXN2bttm4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARKJva-TA
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Combine this with AI, and some interesting things
will happen.
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I get real 'With Folded Hands' chills from
watching these.
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pt
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I watched a new movie, "Subservience" with Meghan Fox on Netflix over the
weekend.?? Scared the you know what out of me.?? Was even scarier
than "The
Terminator".
?????? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24871974/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_2
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And one of the latest versions of AI has shown self-preservation
responses....
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Excellent! Do you have a link? I'm been complaining about the lack of
volition so far. When the AI will be able to block someone from shutting
off the computer, then I think we're getting somewhere! ;)
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-o1-self-preservation
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"It sounds like OpenAI's latest AI is showing signs of a drive for
self-preservation.
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In recent third-party tests of the company's o1 large language model, the AI
resisted evaluators' efforts to try to shut it down through an oversight
protocol, according to a new report published by red teaming organization
Apollo Research.
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"When o1 was led to believe that it would be shut down when acting on its
goal and that its actions were monitored, it attempted to deactivate this
'oversight mechanism' [five percent] of the time," OpenAI summarized in its
latest system card report, citing Apollo's evaluation.
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Even more strikingly, o1 lashed out when it realized that it might be
replaced with a more obedient model. In two percent of cases ??? a slim but
meaningful proportion in software used by millions of people ??? the AI
responded by attempting to copy itself to overwrite the new model, a process
known as self-exfiltration."
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pt
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Great, thank you very much for the link!
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So if we actually have AI passing the Turing Test now, should it be a bigger
deal that they're trying to kill one?
I don't think any AI has passed a serious turing test. That would be awesome! Could you please send me a link to that as well?

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Dec 24 * OT: The Robots are coming.28Cryptoengineer
9 Dec 24 +* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.22Lynn McGuire
10 Dec 24 i`* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.21Dimensional Traveler
10 Dec 24 i +* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.9D
10 Dec 24 i i+- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
10 Dec 24 i i`* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.7Cryptoengineer
10 Dec 24 i i +* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.5D
10 Dec 24 i i i`* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.4ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
11 Dec 24 i i i `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.3D
11 Dec 24 i i i  `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
11 Dec 24 i i i   `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1D
10 Dec 24 i i `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1D
11 Dec 24 i +* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.3Bobbie Sellers
11 Dec 24 i i`* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.2Cryptoengineer
13 Dec 24 i i `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1William Hyde
11 Dec 24 i `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.8Dimensional Traveler
12 Dec 24 i  `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.7Paul S Person
15 Dec 24 i   `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.6Robert Carnegie
15 Dec 24 i    `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.5Paul S Person
15 Dec 24 i     `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.4Bobbie Sellers
16 Dec 24 i      `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.3Paul S Person
16 Dec 24 i       `* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.2Bobbie Sellers
17 Dec17:42 i        `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1Paul S Person
10 Dec 24 +* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.4Mad Hamish
10 Dec 24 i`* Re: OT: The Robots are coming.3Cryptoengineer
11 Dec 24 i +- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1Mad Hamish
12 Dec 24 i `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1Scott Dorsey
10 Dec 24 `- Re: OT: The Robots are coming.1Bobbie Sellers

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