Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...

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Sujet : Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...
De : rich.ulrich (at) *nospam* comcast.net (Rich Ulrich)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.english
Date : 27. Jul 2024, 17:52:19
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 21:07:49 +1000, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
wrote:

On 27/07/24 20:32, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
[PTD] would pronounce that something someone else had said was
wrong, when it wasn't and continue to insist on it even when several
people had produced evbidence that it was true.
>
The Australian coat of arms shows a kangaroo and an emu holding a
shield. These two animals have something in common: they cannot walk
backwards. Their anatomy does not allow it.
>
That was PTD's problem. When caught in an error, he was completely
incapable of backing out. His only option was to dig a deeper hole.
>
He's the only person I've encountered with such a severe form of this
disability. Some others came close, but they got out of the impasse by
responding with a non sequitur.

Anecdote: The great mathmetician/statistician Karl Pearson was
also the first editor of Biometrika (for 35 years).  He described
what we know as the Pearson chisquared test -- but for a few
years, he insisted that it had 3 degrees of freedom, not 1.  And
he refused to publish the folks who argued (what he finally
conceded) for 1.


This is frequent a characteristic of Aspergers Syndrome (which
is a diagnosis no longer in the book; too bad).

I learned about autism and Aspergers when trying to figure out
what was wrong with a bright fellow who started contributing
and arguing in the statistics groups.  He also refused to reread
what was written, to see that he got something wrong, which
happened fairly often. - He was a smart mathematician but he
had no experience with research, which is where the questions
cam from.

Also typical for the autistic spectrum --he frequently called people
'stupid' and 'liar'. STUPID meant he didn't understand what was said,
and LIAR meant he thought it was 'obviously' wrong.  Oh, a lot of
autistics have trouble (for instance) in learning to 'choose the best
answer' on multiple choice when unsure, because endorsing an
answer that they are not sure of feels too much like lying, which
they avoid (and are very bad at). 

--
Rich Ulrich

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Jul 24 * Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...55Steve Hayes
25 Jul 24 `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...54HenHanna
26 Jul 24  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...53Steve Hayes
26 Jul 24   +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
26 Jul 24   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...43Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...14Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...11Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...10Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   iii +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...8Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...7Antonio Marques
26 Jul 24   iii i +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   iii i `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Helmut Richter
27 Jul 24   iii i  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Christian Weisgerber
27 Jul 24   iii i   `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Peter Moylan
26 Jul 24   iii `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   ii `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4jerryfriedman
26 Jul 24   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Tony Cooper
27 Jul 24   ii `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2occam
28 Jul 24   ii  `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
26 Jul 24   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4lar3ryca
27 Jul 24   ii+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Tony Cooper
28 Jul 24   iii`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1occam
28 Jul 24   ii`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Peter Moylan
27 Jul 24   i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...20Steve Hayes
27 Jul 24   i `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...19Peter Moylan
27 Jul 24   i  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...18Rich Ulrich
27 Jul 24   i   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
28 Jul 24   i   i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...13occam
28 Jul 24   i   i+* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...11Hibou
28 Jul 24   i   ii`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...10Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   ii +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3occam
29 Jul 24   i   ii i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Snidely
29 Jul 24   i   ii i `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
29 Jul 24   i   ii `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...6Hibou
29 Jul 24   i   ii  `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...5Rich Ulrich
29 Jul 24   i   ii   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4Hibou
29 Jul 24   i   ii    `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3Rich Ulrich
30 Jul 24   i   ii     `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Hibou
2 Aug 24   i   ii      `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   i`- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Rich Ulrich
28 Jul 24   i   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...2Stefan Ram
29 Jul 24   i    `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Stefan Ram
26 Jul 24   `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...8Christian Weisgerber
27 Jul 24    +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
28 Jul 24    `* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...6jerryfriedman
29 Jul 24     +* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...4Ruud Harmsen
29 Jul 24     i`* Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...3jerryfriedman
29 Jul 24     i +- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Ruud Harmsen
30 Jul 24     i `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Steve Hayes
30 Aug 24     `- Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...1Ross Clark

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