DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved

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Sujet : DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved
De : tamborinonospam (at) *nospam* gomail.com.ua (Tamborino)
Groupes : comp.mobile.android misc.phone.mobile.iphone comp.sys.mac.system
Date : 01. Apr 2024, 01:55:13
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Organisation : To protect and to server
Message-ID : <uud0lh$13jd4$1@paganini.bofh.team>
This is the common misunderstanding with both RCS in general and Apple's
update in particular. RCS is not end-to-end encrypted.

Yet, for conversations between Google Messages users, end-to-end encryption
is now enabled on your Android phone by default.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/03/30/new-apple-iphone-16-pro-max-and-ios-18-leak-googles-imessage-warning/

So unlike iMessaging between iPhone users or Google Messaging between
Android users, or more importantly WhatsApping between iPhone and Android
users, RCS between iPhone and Android will not have that level of security.

This is critical because it's the issue the DOJ highlighted in its lawsuit:
"Apple is willing to make the iPhone less secure and less private... Text
messages sent from iPhones to Android phones are unencrypted as a result of
Apple's conduct. If Apple wanted to, Apple could allow iPhone users to send
encrypted messages to Android users while still using iMessage on their
iPhone, which would instantly improve the privacy and security of iPhone
and other smartphone users."

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1 Apr 24 * DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved164Tamborino
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1 Apr 24 i+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Charlie
1 Apr 24 i+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Frank Slootweg
1 Apr 24 i+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved9badgolferman
1 Apr 24 ii+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2sms
1 Apr 24 iii`- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Frankie
2 Apr 24 ii+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5Your Name
2 Apr 24 iii`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Wolf Greenblatt
2 Apr 24 iii `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3Alan
2 Apr 24 iii  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Wolf Greenblatt
2 Apr 24 iii   `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
2 Apr 24 ii`- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
4 Apr 24 i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved145Hank Rogers
4 Apr 24 i `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved144Your Name
4 Apr 24 i  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved143Hank Rogers
4 Apr 24 i   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved142Java Jive
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4 Apr 24 i    i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved25Alan
4 Apr 24 i    i `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved24The Real Bev
4 Apr 24 i    i  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved23Alan
5 Apr 24 i    i   +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4The Real Bev
5 Apr 24 i    i   i+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Sn!pe
5 Apr 24 i    i   i+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
7 Apr 24 i    i   i`- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Chris
10 Apr 24 i    i   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved18Anonymous
10 Apr 24 i    i    `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved17Alan
11 Apr 24 i    i     `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved16Anonymous
11 Apr 24 i    i      `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved15Alan
12 Apr 24 i    i       `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved14Anonymous
12 Apr 24 i    i        +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3Alan
13 Apr 24 i    i        i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Anonymous
13 Apr 24 i    i        i `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
12 Apr 24 i    i        `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved10Alan
12 Apr 24 i    i         `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved9Jolly Roger
13 Apr 24 i    i          `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved8Anonymous
13 Apr 24 i    i           `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved7Alan
14 Apr 24 i    i            `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved6Anonymous
14 Apr 24 i    i             `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5Alan
15 Apr 24 i    i              `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Anonymous
15 Apr 24 i    i               `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3Alan
16 Apr 24 i    i                `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Anonymous
16 Apr 24 i    i                 `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
4 Apr 24 i    +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Your Name
4 Apr 24 i    `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved114Anonymous
4 Apr 24 i     +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
7 Apr 24 i     `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved112Chris
7 Apr 24 i      +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
7 Apr 24 i      +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved12David Higton
7 Apr 24 i      i+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Jolly Roger
10 Apr 24 i      i+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved8Anonymous
10 Apr 24 i      ii+- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
10 Apr 24 i      ii`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved6Chris
11 Apr 24 i      ii `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5Anonymous
11 Apr 24 i      ii  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Chris
12 Apr 24 i      ii   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3Anonymous
12 Apr 24 i      ii    `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Alan
12 Apr 24 i      ii     `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Chris
10 Apr 24 i      i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Chris
10 Apr 24 i      i `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
10 Apr 24 i      `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved98Anonymous
10 Apr 24 i       +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
10 Apr 24 i       +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved94Chris
11 Apr 24 i       i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved93Anonymous
11 Apr 24 i       i `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved92Chris
12 Apr 24 i       i  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved91Anonymous
12 Apr 24 i       i   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved90Chris
14 Apr 24 i       i    `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved89Anonymous
14 Apr 24 i       i     +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved11Alan
15 Apr 24 i       i     i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved10Anonymous
15 Apr 24 i       i     i `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved9Alan
16 Apr 24 i       i     i  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved8Anonymous
16 Apr 24 i       i     i   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved7Alan
17 Apr 24 i       i     i    +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Hank Rogers
17 Apr 24 i       i     i    i`- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
19 Apr 24 i       i     i    `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Anonymous
20 Apr 24 i       i     i     `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3Alan
21 Apr 24 i       i     i      `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved2Anonymous
21 Apr 24 i       i     i       `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
14 Apr 24 i       i     `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved77Chris
14 Apr 24 i       i      +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved8The Real Bev
14 Apr 24 i       i      i+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved6Alan
14 Apr 24 i       i      ii`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5The Real Bev
14 Apr 24 i       i      ii `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Alan
14 Apr 24 i       i      ii  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3The Real Bev
14 Apr 24 i       i      ii   +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
15 Apr 24 i       i      ii   `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Chris
15 Apr 24 i       i      i`- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Chris
15 Apr 24 i       i      `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved68Anonymous
15 Apr 24 i       i       +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved22Alan
16 Apr 24 i       i       i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved21Anonymous
16 Apr 24 i       i       i +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved16Alan
19 Apr 24 i       i       i i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved15Anonymous
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved13Alan
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i i+* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved7The Real Bev
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved6Alan
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5The Real Bev
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii  `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Alan
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii   `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved3The Real Bev
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii    +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Jolly Roger
21 Apr 24 i       i       i i ii    `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
21 Apr 24 i       i       i i i`* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved5Anonymous
20 Apr 24 i       i       i i `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Chris
17 Apr 24 i       i       i `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Alan
15 Apr 24 i       i       `* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved45Chris
10 Apr 24 i       +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
12 Apr 24 i       `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Kees Nuyt
2 Apr 24 +- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Alan
5 Apr 24 +* Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved4Arno Welzel
13 Apr 24 `- Re: DOJ is correct that Apple iPhone is far less secure than Android when RCS messaging is involved1Jörg Lorenz

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