Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?

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Sujet : Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?
De : bc (at) *nospam* freeuk.com (Bart)
Groupes : comp.lang.c
Date : 02. Aug 2024, 16:48:15
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On 02/08/2024 15:33, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <v8inds$2qpqh$1@dont-email.me>,
Thiago Adams  <thiago.adams@gmail.com> wrote:
...
So it seams that anything is ok for unsigned but not for signed.
Maybe because all computer gave same answer for unsigned but this is not
true for signed?
 I think it is because it wants to (still) support representations other
than 2s complement.  I think POSIX requires 2s complement, and I expect the
C standard to (eventually) follow suit.
 
C23 assumes 2s complement. However overflow on signed integers will still be considered UB: too many compilers depend on it.
But even if well-defined (eg. that UB was removed so that overflow just wraps as it does with unsigned), some here, whose initials may or may not be DB, consider such overflow Wrong and a bug in a program.
However they don't consider overflow of unsigned values wrong at all, simply because C allows that behaviour.
But I don't get it. If my calculation gives the wrong results because I've chosen a u32 type instead of u64, that's just as much a bug as using i32 instead of i64.

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31 Jul 24 * What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?56Thiago Adams
31 Jul 24 +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?7Ben Bacarisse
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?6Tim Rentsch
11 Aug 24 i `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?5Vir Campestris
11 Aug 24 i  +- Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?1Richard Damon
11 Aug 24 i  +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?2James Kuyper
12 Aug 24 i  i`- Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?1Vir Campestris
12 Aug 24 i  `- Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?1Tim Rentsch
31 Jul 24 +- Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?1James Kuyper
1 Aug 24 `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?47Blue-Maned_Hawk
1 Aug 24  +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?45Ben Bacarisse
2 Aug 24  i`* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?44Thiago Adams
2 Aug 24  i `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?43Kenny McCormack
2 Aug 24  i  +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?34Bart
2 Aug 24  i  i+- Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?1Ben Bacarisse
2 Aug 24  i  i+* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?2Thiago Adams
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3 Aug 24  i  iii+* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?19Thiago Adams
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3 Aug 24  i  iiiii`* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?7Keith Thompson
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3 Aug 24  i  iiiii  `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?5Keith Thompson
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4 Aug 24  i  iiiii    `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?3Keith Thompson
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3 Aug 24  i  iiii  `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?8Keith Thompson
3 Aug 24  i  iiii   `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?7Thiago Adams
3 Aug 24  i  iiii    `* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?6Keith Thompson
3 Aug 24  i  iiii     +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?3David Brown
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3 Aug 24  i  iii  +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?4Thiago Adams
4 Aug 24  i  iii  i`* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?3Keith Thompson
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9 Aug 24  i       +* Re: What is your opinion about unsigned int u = -2 ?2Bonita Montero
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