Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz

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Sujet : Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz
De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Edward Rawde)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 04. Nov 2024, 17:31:01
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"Jan Panteltje" <alien@comet.invalid> wrote in message news:vg9pnu$ekhh$1@solani.org...
On a sunny day (Sun, 3 Nov 2024 23:06:04 -0500) it happened "Edward Rawde"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in
<vg9h7b$277o$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
>
Simulation isn't fast but if you let it complete and do an FFT on the last 30 seconds, it's 80dB down at all unwanted
harmonics.
There do however seem to be unwanted sidebands close in either side of 1KHz
Any suggestions for improvement?
>
Publish a circuit diagram.
Not that hard to make !

If you mean ASCII art, no thanks in the case of this circuit.

Assuming Windows, Download this:

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/v8.7/

Yes Windows is crap but you still need the right tools for the job.

Make a something.asc file (You'll need file extensions turned on) and open it with notepad++
Paste the contents of my post.
The second file I posted has the best performance.

The first and last lines are shown here:
Version 4
(many other lines)
TEXT -400 -720 Left 2 ;Edward Rawde's high purity sinewave oscillator. 3 Nov 2024 V2

Now check that all lines except the first begin with a word in capital letters.
If not then it's likely that line wraps need to be corrected.

Go to Encoding and choose "Convert to ANSI".
Save the file.

Download this:
https://www.analog.com/en/resources/design-tools-and-calculators/ltspice-simulator.html

After installing it make sure it's fully up to date in Tools, Update components and Help Check for updates.

Close it and open the asc file which should now open with LTSpice.

Press the green Run/Pause button and another window should open.
Click in the schematic where it says output and watch the output as it simulates.

After a while you can select a clean part of the trace and right click to choose View then FFT.
Select "use current zoom extent and run the FFT".

Now you can turn your lab into a bedroom or livingroom or something useful.

To answer Bill's comments, I do read data sheets in detail and I was aware that I should have added an 0.1uF but I just hadn't got
to it due to the excitement of getting below 80dB :)

If I was going to build this I'd read the data sheet in a lot more detail because that may turn up other parameters which matter in
reality such as maximum supply voltage.
It seems that you're not supposed to go over 5V these days.

It's not possible to count the number of circuit diagrams I've seen where there was a part or subcircuit and no-one had a clue what
it was doing.

The feedback system through U1 seems to be necessary to keep all four diodes making equal contribution all the time.
Otherwise it can slip into only two diode mode and distortion increases.







Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Nov 24 * 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz64Edward Rawde
4 Nov 24 +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz62Jan Panteltje
4 Nov 24 i+* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz23Bill Sloman
4 Nov 24 ii`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz22Edward Rawde
5 Nov 24 ii `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz21Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 ii  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz20Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 ii   +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8Jeroen Belleman
6 Nov 24 ii   i+- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 ii   i+- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 ii   i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz5john larkin
6 Nov 24 ii   i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4Jeroen Belleman
6 Nov 24 ii   i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3john larkin
7 Nov 24 ii   i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 ii   i    `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
18 Nov 24 ii   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz11Liz Tuddenham
19 Nov 24 ii    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz10Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz9Liz Tuddenham
19 Nov 24 ii      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii       `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz7Jeroen Belleman
19 Nov 24 ii        +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
19 Nov 24 ii        `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz5Joe Gwinn
19 Nov 24 ii         `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4john larkin
19 Nov 24 ii          `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3Joe Gwinn
20 Nov 24 ii           `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Jan Panteltje
20 Nov 24 ii            `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Joe Gwinn
4 Nov 24 i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz38Edward Rawde
5 Nov 24 i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz37Jan Panteltje
5 Nov 24 i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz36Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 i   +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz34Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz20Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz19Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    i +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i i`- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
6 Nov 24 i    i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz16Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz15Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i   +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz13Bill Sloman
6 Nov 24 i    i   i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz12Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i    i   i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz11Jan Panteltje
7 Nov 24 i    i   i  `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz10Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i    i   i   `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz9Jan Panteltje
8 Nov 24 i    i   i    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]8Liz Tuddenham
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Jan Panteltje
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]2Cursitor Doom
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     i`- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Liz Tuddenham
8 Nov 24 i    i   i     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]4ehsjr
9 Nov 24 i    i   i      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]3Liz Tuddenham
9 Nov 24 i    i   i       `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]2Jan Panteltje
9 Nov 24 i    i   i        `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz [OT]1Liz Tuddenham
6 Nov 24 i    i   `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
6 Nov 24 i    `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz13Edward Rawde
6 Nov 24 i     +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz8john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz7Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i     i +* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 i     i i`* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2Liz Tuddenham
7 Nov 24 i     i i `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jeroen Belleman
7 Nov 24 i     i `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz3john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     i  +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Bill Sloman
7 Nov 24 i     i  `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1john larkin
7 Nov 24 i     `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz4Jan Panteltje
7 Nov 24 i      +- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Edward Rawde
7 Nov 24 i      `* Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz2john larkin
7 Nov 24 i       `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Jan Panteltje
21 Nov 24 `- Re: 80dB now but still needs improvement at 1KHz1Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund

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