Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars

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Sujet : Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars
De : jlarkin_highland_tech (at) *nospam* nirgendwo (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 30. Aug 2024, 15:34:05
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:13:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

NASA's Mars rover Perseverance has found that sound travels much more slowly on the Red Planet than it does on Earth
and behaves in some unexpected ways that could have strange consequences for communication on the planet.
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-rover-perseverance-speed-of-sound#main
 At frequencies above 240 Hertz, "the collision-activated vibrational modes of carbon dioxide molecules do not have enough time to relax, or return to their original state,"
 the researchers said, which results in sound waves at higher frequencies traveling more than 32 feet per second (10 m/s) faster than the low-frequency ones.
 That means that if you were standing on Mars, listening to distant music, you would hear higher-pitched sounds before you would hear the lower-pitched ones.
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paper:
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2022/pdf/1357.pdf
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So...
Music from far away may sound funny?
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For Mars we will need compensation headphones with distance measurement and variable delays....
;-)
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Better use radio.. and earplugs/ headphones...
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Funny, I just delivered a lecture on transmission lines and noted that
microstrips have dispersion from  the unbalanced dielectric constants
and skin effect. Rising edges get sloppy at the and of a long trace.

I wonder if anyone has added surface-mount Heaviside loading coils to
a PCB trace.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_coil

There used to be millions of 88 mH toroids on the surplus market,
telephone loading coils.

The Mars thing is no big deal. You'd be dead too soon to worry about
acoustics. Imagine Burning Man (literally!) on Mars.




Date Sujet#  Auteur
30 Aug 24 * OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars25Jan Panteltje
30 Aug 24 `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars24john larkin
30 Aug 24  +* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars22Bill Sloman
30 Aug 24  i`* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars21john larkin
31 Aug 24  i `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars20Bill Sloman
31 Aug 24  i  `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars19john larkin
31 Aug 24  i   `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars18Bill Sloman
31 Aug 24  i    `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars17john larkin
31 Aug 24  i     +* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars4Jeroen Belleman
1 Sep 24  i     i`* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars3john larkin
1 Sep 24  i     i `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars2Jeroen Belleman
1 Sep 24  i     i  `- Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars1john larkin
1 Sep 24  i     `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars12Bill Sloman
1 Sep 24  i      `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars11john larkin
1 Sep 24  i       `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars10Bill Sloman
1 Sep 24  i        `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars9john larkin
2 Sep 24  i         `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars8Bill Sloman
2 Sep 24  i          `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars7john larkin
3 Sep 24  i           `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars6Bill Sloman
4 Sep 24  i            `* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars5john larkin
5 Sep 24  i             +* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars3Bill Sloman
5 Sep 24  i             i`* Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars2john larkin
6 Sep 24  i             i `- Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars1Bill Sloman
5 Sep 24  i             `- Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars1Bill Sloman
31 Aug 24  `- Re: OT: sound speed depends on frequency on mars1Jan Panteltje

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