Re: OT: Trump's Cabinet Picks

On 22/11/2024 5:36 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:12:03 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 22/11/2024 2:17 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:51:13 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 21/11/2024 8:47 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Nov 2024 17:45:17 +1100) it happened Bill Sloman
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On 21/11/2024 2:27 pm, john larkin wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:55:12 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:13:19 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
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Russia versus YouCrane
It makes no sense other then weapon sales, weakening Europe, same as that other democrat Clinton did.

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Russia seems to think it makes sense. It's been working on nibbling off
bits of the Ukraine for years - starting with the Crimean peninsula in
2014. Zelensky wasn't in power back then. He didn't get elected until 2019.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
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This didn't generate much in the way of weapons sales. The Russian
invasion of the Ukraine in 2022 did generate quite a lot of weapons
sales, but that was a purely Russian initiative.

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Nope, After ByeThen met Putin and asked him what would be un-acceptable to him
ByeThen did exactly that and that way triggered that war, 'lensky is just a CIA agent
like many others all over the world making unrest so YouAsh can sell more weapons.
With Trump as the new King of States maybe he gets that deep state working for the common people
not having to pay taxes for a few ruthless weapon manufacturers and their sales men killing
millions all over the world and in their own country, even kids in schools shooting each other with automatic weapons.
Better fix the infrastructure, again thousands without power, now in the west.
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If you have a problem getting loose a big nut, use BIG pliers!
The nut in this case is Zelensky and sending toy drones is like destroying one precious tweezers after the other to get it
lose.

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Zelensky didn't start the war, and his crime - in your eyes - lies in
his not having surrendered to the Russians in 2022 as they clearly
expected him to.
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Get the biggest pliers you have and that is nukes for Russia, nuke Kiev and be done with it
Bad? And what did the US do in WW2 with the Japanese civilians?

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The Japanese did start that war - by the surprise attack on the American
fleet at Pearl Harbour. It four years of very skilled and expensive work
to get the Americans big enough pliers to discourage in the nuts in Tokyo.
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Dropping hydrogen bombs on Kyiv might win the war against the Ukraine
for the Russians, but the international reaction would probably drop a
lot of hydrogen bombs on Moscow and every place where Russia has stocks
of nuclear weapons. If Putin got that ambitious there's no telling where
he would go next, and premptive destruction would probably minimise
Western casualties in the long term  - they'd probably still be huge,
but a premptive strike would probably destroy enough Russian nuclear
weapons to save some lives in the long run.

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China, Russia, N Korea, Pakistan, India, many more have nukes, and would not just standby and look.

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Do pay attention - I was talking about the international reaction to
Russia having had a psychotic breakdown in it's leadership.
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Any country deciding to purge them of the psychotic leaders and as many
of the nuclear weapons that any survivor might launch could rely on
support from non-psychotic leaders
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Blowing up the gas pipes from Russia to Europe is equivalent to starting a war.

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It didn't start any war. The Russians had already invaded Ukraine when
it happened.
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Nuking the US into oblivion is a given if it does not change ways.

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Russia and China are both behaving badly too - Russia has physically
invaded Ukraine, which worse than anything the US has done.
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Trump, if he does not get shot by democrats, may be the US's last chance.

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Last chance to degenerate into a totally third world country?
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Probably not. There are lots of US politicians who are psychotic enough
to embrace that as an ambition.
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Trump hasn't yet had people he doesn't like murdered overseas with the
US equivalent of novichok, but he seems sympathetic to Putin, who has.

 Brain defective ByeThen and Chameleon are played by the genocide committing YouAsh Youws
Putin was just selling gas to Europe
De-stabilizing the EU (and other regions of the world) just to make the Euro weaker
has not worked.
YouAsh influence is becoming less, its products suck (F35 is a disaster) so are Boeing planes..
cars...
Now look at this speech I just found on rt.com
blocked in this part of the world on order of the YouAsh
 From
  https://www.rt.com/russia/608008-putin-ukraine-full-speech/
 Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a televised address from the Kremlin on Thursday evening
Putin outlines Moscow’s response to Ukraine escalation (FULL SPEECH)

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I would like to emphasise once again that it was not Russia, but the United States that destroyed the international security system and, by continuing to fight, cling to its hegemony, they are pushing the whole world into a global conflict.

It was Russia  that invaded the Ukraine in 2022, and annexed the Crimean Peninsula in 2014. This was a more flamboyant assault on the international security system than anything that America may have done.

We have always preferred and are ready now to resolve all disputes by peaceful means.

You surrender, and you will get peace. Of a sort.

But we are also ready for any turn of events.
If anyone still doubts this, make no mistake: there will always be a response.

Of course there will. Putin has killed off a generation of Russian cannon-fodder, but he's only just started on North Korea's.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney