Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma

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De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 30. Nov 2024, 04:12:42
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On 30/11/2024 2:27 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Nov 2024 01:15:15 +1100) it happened Bill Slowman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vici9s$13umg$1@dont-email.me>:
 
On 30/11/2024 12:00 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
A nuclear fusion startup just reached a milestone
in its bid to commercialize unlimited clean energy :
   https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/29/climate/nuclear-fusion-openstar/index.html
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ITER inside out :-)
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You really can't read, can you. It's got its plasma to 300,000 degrees
K, and ITER have got theirs to 150,000,000 degrees K, about 500 times
hotter. It maybe some kind of milestone for OpenStar, but they've got
lot of milestones to go before they'll have a product that they can sell.
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And they are still trying to fuse hydrogen or deuterium, which produces
a lot of neutrons.
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https://hb11.energy/
 Looks a bit like that thing Larking was making stuff for, laser ignition
Not much coming from that at all.
The US national ignition facitility was mainly intended to work out whether nuclear bombs would go off. The nuclear fusion stuff is just done to keep the scientists happy.

Just playing stuff for kids/ training stuff for aspiring nuclear fishisicks..
That was discussed here last year or so.
 
is trying to fuse hydrogen and boron, which doesn't produce neutrons -
if the machine ever works it will last a whole lot longer than hydrogen
fusion machines, which will be damaged by the stray neutrons they
produce, if they ever work.
 Would be nice to have small portable power sources, for in the home and cars etc etc.
Of course it would.

Plutonium is dangerous, but the Viking spacecraft are still working after many decades.
Terrorist can't get at them to take them apart and use the Pu-239 to make an atomic bomb.

Anyways after WW3 all will radiate, so who cares.
With any luck, there won't be a WW3.

As to ITER, it is a political job creation project of and for Albert E parrots.
All big science projects make work for scientists and engineers. That doesn't make them worthless.

The only thing that will come of it is that they find to make it work they will need an ever bigger one...
In your ever-so-expert opinion.

I like the Farnsworth fusor, fusion any kid can do.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor
Of course you do. It's much too small to generate more energy than you have put into it to get the fusion to take place at all.
Being big isn't a virtue. Being big enough to do something useful is.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Nov 24 * New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma43Jan Panteltje
29 Nov 24 +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma41Bill Sloman
29 Nov 24 i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma40Jan Panteltje
29 Nov 24 i +- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma29Jeroen Belleman
29 Nov 24 i i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3john larkin
29 Nov 24 i ii`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2Jeroen Belleman
29 Nov 24 i ii `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1john larkin
29 Nov 24 i i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma24Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i ii`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma23Jeroen Belleman
29 Nov 24 i ii `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma22Liz Tuddenham
29 Nov 24 i ii  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma21Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma6john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii   i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma4john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii   i  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii   i   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii   i    `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i ii   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma14Liz Tuddenham
30 Nov 24 i ii    `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma13Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii     `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma12john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii      `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma11Jeroen Belleman
30 Nov 24 i ii       `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma10john larkin
30 Nov 24 i ii        +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma8Jeroen Belleman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i+* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii        ii`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i`* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        i +* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2Jeroen Belleman
1 Dec 24 i ii        i i`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2john larkin
1 Dec 24 i ii        i  `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Joe Gwinn
1 Dec 24 i ii        `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i i`- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma9Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i  `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma8Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i   `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma7Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i    `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma6Jan Panteltje
30 Nov 24 i     `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma5Bill Sloman
30 Nov 24 i      `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma4Jan Panteltje
1 Dec 24 i       `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma3Bill Sloman
1 Dec 24 i        `* Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma2Jan Panteltje
1 Dec 24 i         `- Re: New fusion power system test creates 300,000 degrees C plasma1Bill Sloman
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