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7 Jul 25 o Re: Looking for stories....1Robert Woodward
6 Jul 25 o (Tears) The Steel, the Mist, and the Blazing Sun by Christopher Anvil1James Nicoll
4 Jul 25 * Skylark series4Michael F. Stemper
4 Jul 25 +* Re: Skylark series2Robert Woodward
4 Jul 25 i`- Re: Skylark series1Michael F. Stemper
5 Jul 25 `- Re: Skylark series1Robert Carnegie
26 Jun 25 * (Worst) Golem100 by Alfred Bester4James Nicoll
26 Jun 25 +- Re: (Worst) Golem100 by Alfred Bester1William Hyde
1 Jul 25 `* Re: (Worst) Golem100 by Alfred Bester2Tony Nance
4 Jul 25  `- Re: (Worst) Golem100 by Alfred Bester1Robert Carnegie
28 Jun 25 * Science-based fiction8Stefan Ram
28 Jun 25 +* Re: Science-based fiction2Stefan Ram
28 Jun 25 i`- Re: Science-based fiction1Scott Dorsey
28 Jun 25 +* Re: Science-based fiction2James Nicoll
4 Jul 25 i`- Re: Science-based fiction1Robert Carnegie
28 Jun 25 `* Re: Science-based fiction3Crryptoengineer
29 Jun 25  `* Re: Science-based fiction2Paul S Person
1 Jul 25   `- Re: Science-based fiction1Cryptoengineer
4 Jul 25 o (WFC) The Bewitching by Silvia Moreno-Garcia1James Nicoll
3 Jul 25 * [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them8danny burstein
3 Jul 25 +* Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them2James Nicoll
3 Jul 25 i`- Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them1danny burstein
3 Jul 25 `* Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them5danny burstein
3 Jul 25  +* Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them2Tony Nance
3 Jul 25  i`- Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them1danny burstein
3 Jul 25  `* Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them2Bobbie Sellers
4 Jul 25   `- Re: [yasid] shooter at car drivers who "diminished" them1Charles Packer
3 Jul 25 o (Review) Blight (Sleep of Reason, volume 2) by Rachel A. Rosen1James Nicoll
26 Jun 25 * (ReacTor) Five SFF Stories About Making Amends4James Nicoll
1 Jul 25 `* Re: (ReacTor) Five SFF Stories About Making Amends3Tony Nance
1 Jul 25  `* Re: (ReacTor) Five SFF Stories About Making Amends2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
2 Jul 25   `- Re: (ReacTor) Five SFF Stories About Making Amends1Tony Nance
26 Jun 25 * Laser weeders?!17Tony Nance
26 Jun 25 +* Re: Laser weeders?!3ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
26 Jun 25 i+- Re: Laser weeders?!1Tony Nance
27 Jun 25 i`- Re: Laser weeders?!1Jay Morris
26 Jun 25 `* Re: Laser weeders?!13Ahasuerus
27 Jun 25  +- Re: Laser weeders?!1WolfFan
30 Jun 25  +* Re: Laser weeders?!10Joy Beeson
30 Jun 25  i+- Re: Laser weeders?!1Bobbie Sellers
30 Jun 25  i`* Re: Laser weeders?!8Scott Dorsey
1 Jul 25  i +* Re: Laser weeders?!6Dimensional Traveler
1 Jul 25  i i`* Re: Laser weeders?!5Tony Nance
1 Jul 25  i i `* Re: Laser weeders?!4Dimensional Traveler
1 Jul 25  i i  `* Re: Laser weeders?!3Tony Nance
2 Jul 25  i i   `* Re: Laser weeders?!2Dimensional Traveler
2 Jul 25  i i    `- Re: Laser weeders?!1Tony Nance
1 Jul 25  i `- Re: Laser weeders?!1Dimensional Traveler
1 Jul 25  `- Re: Laser weeders?!1Tony Nance
23 Jun 25 * (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents12James Nicoll
24 Jun 25 `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents11Tony Nance
24 Jun 25  +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents6ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
24 Jun 25  i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents5James Nicoll
24 Jun 25  i +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents3Tony Nance
24 Jun 25  i i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
24 Jun 25  i i`- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents1James Nicoll
1 Jul 25  i `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents1Michael F. Stemper
24 Jun 25  +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents3Michael F. Stemper
24 Jun 25  i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents2Tony Nance
25 Jun 25  i `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents1Michael F. Stemper
24 Jun 25  `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories Featuring Highly Supportive Parents1James Nicoll
30 Jun 25 * (Clarke) Which 2003 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read?5James Nicoll
30 Jun 25 +- Re: (Clarke) Which 2003 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read?1Thomas Koenig
30 Jun 25 +- Re: (Clarke) Which 2003 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read?1Robert Woodward
30 Jun 25 +- Re: (Clarke) Which 2003 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read?1William Hyde
1 Jul 25 `- Re: (Clarke) Which 2003 Clarke Award Finalists Have You Read?1Tony Nance
1 Jul 25 o (Meetpoint) The Dreamstone (Ealdwood, volume 1) by C J Cherryh1James Nicoll
1 Jul 25 o Highlights and Lowlights - June 20251Tony Nance
30 Jun 25 * Sounds Like The Raiders March2John Savard
1 Jul 25 `- Re: Sounds Like The Raiders March1Charles Packer
29 Jun 25 o (Tears) To Walk The Night by William Sloane1James Nicoll
26 Jun 25 * Five and Six4Stefan Ram
26 Jun 25 `* Re: Five and Six3Bobbie Sellers
26 Jun 25  +- Re: Five and Six1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
28 Jun 25  `- Re: Five and Six1Stefan Ram
25 Jun 25 * OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home7Christian Weisgerber
26 Jun 25 `* Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home6Paul S Person
26 Jun 25  +* Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home4Christian Weisgerber
27 Jun 25  i`* Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home3Robert Woodward
27 Jun 25  i +- Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home1Scott Dorsey
27 Jun 25  i `- Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home1Paul S Person
26 Jun 25  `- Re: OT: Like bull's-eyeing womp rats back home1Michael F. Stemper
27 Jun 25 o (WFC) Vanya and the Wild Hunt (Vanya, volume 1) by Sangu Mandanna1James Nicoll
9 Jun 25 * (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale17James Nicoll
10 Jun 25 +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale15Tony Nance
11 Jun 25 i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale14Michael F. Stemper
12 Jun 25 i `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale13Paul S Person
12 Jun 25 i  `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale12Michael F. Stemper
12 Jun 25 i   +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale2James Nicoll
13 Jun 25 i   i`- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Paul S Person
13 Jun 25 i   +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale8Paul S Person
13 Jun 25 i   i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Cryptoengineer
14 Jun 25 i   i+* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale4Jerry Brown
14 Jun 25 i   ii`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale3Robert Carnegie
14 Jun 25 i   ii `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale2Paul S Person
14 Jun 25 i   ii  `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Michael F. Stemper
14 Jun 25 i   i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale2Michael F. Stemper
23 Jun 25 i   i `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Tony Nance
26 Jun 25 i   `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Robert Carnegie
10 Jun 25 `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Stories About Time Travel on a Limited Scale1Lynn McGuire
26 Jun 25 o On creating an identifiable source for AI1Charles Packer
17 Jun 25 * R.I.P. Maurice Gee, 93, wrote "Under the Mountain" (1979)4Lenona
17 Jun 25 `* Re: R.I.P. Maurice Gee, 93, wrote "Under the Mountain" (1979)3Lenona
20 Jun 25  +- Re: R.I.P. Maurice Gee, 93, wrote "Under the Mountain" (1979)1Titus G
26 Jun 25  `- Re: R.I.P. Maurice Gee, 93, wrote "Under the Mountain" (1979)1Robert Carnegie
25 Jun 25 o Salt. Adam Roberts.1Titus G
17 Jun 25 * Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe9Tony Nance
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe3Robert Carnegie
21 Jun 25 i`* Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe2Tony Nance
21 Jun 25 i `- Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe1Tony Nance
21 Jun 25 `* Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe5William Hyde
21 Jun 25  +- Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe1Tony Nance
24 Jun 25  `* Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe3Bobbie Sellers
24 Jun 25   `* Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe2William Hyde
24 Jun 25    `- Re: Headline - definite Mutineer's Moon vibe1Bobbie Sellers
17 Jun 25 * The Trouble with Vampires...10Bobbie Sellers
20 Jun 25 +* Re: The Trouble with Vampires...3Tony Nance
24 Jun 25 i`* Re: The Trouble with Vampires...2Bobbie Sellers
24 Jun 25 i `- Re: The Trouble with Vampires...1Tony Nance
20 Jun 25 +- Re: The Trouble with Vampires...1Lynn McGuire
20 Jun 25 `* Re: The Trouble with Vampires...5William Hyde
22 Jun 25  `* Re: The Trouble with Geraniums...4Titus G
22 Jun 25   `* Re: The Trouble with Geraniums...3William Hyde
24 Jun 25    `* Re: The Trouble with Geraniums...2Titus G
24 Jun 25     `- Re: The Trouble with Geraniums...1William Hyde
24 Jun 25 * Fourth Story2Stefan Ram
24 Jun 25 `- Re: Fourth Story1Cryptoengineer
24 Jun 25 o (Realized World) House of Shards by Walter Jon Williams1James Nicoll
30 May 25 * 2025 Hugo Awards Homework - The Novels5Robert Woodward
31 May 25 +* Re: 2025 Hugo Awards Homework - The Novels2Robert Woodward
1 Jun 25 i`- Re: 2025 Hugo Awards Homework - The Novels1Jaimie Vandenbergh
3 Jun 25 +- Re: 2025 Hugo Awards Homework - The Novels1Titus G
24 Jun 25 `- Re: 2025 Hugo Awards Homework - The Novels1Titus G
23 Jun 25 o Study: Meta AI model can reproduce almost half of Harry Potter book1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
8 May 25 * (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings24James Nicoll
8 May 25 +- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Ahasuerus
8 May 25 +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings4Lynn McGuire
9 May 25 i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Tony Nance
19 May 25 i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1James Nicoll
23 May 25 i`- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Chris Thompson
9 May 25 +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings9Tony Nance
9 May 25 i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
17 May 25 i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings7Bobbie Sellers
17 May 25 i +- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Scott Dorsey
23 May 25 i `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings5Robert Carnegie
24 May 25 i  `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings4Paul S Person
24 May 25 i   +- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Dimensional Traveler
23 Jun 25 i   +- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Christian Weisgerber
23 Jun 25 i   `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Paul S Person
9 May 25 +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings4Christian Weisgerber
9 May 25 i+- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
10 May 25 i`* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings2Scott Dorsey
10 May 25 i `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
12 May 25 +- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Ignatios Souvatzis
18 May 25 `* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings4Default User
18 May 25  +* Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings2Scott Dorsey
23 May 25  i`- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Robert Carnegie
18 May 25  `- Re: (ReacTor) Five Books About Duplicating Human Beings1Paul S Person
21 Jun 25 * Wizard of Id: Mutual Destruction4Lynn McGuire
22 Jun 25 `* Re: Wizard of Id: Mutual Destruction3Cryptoengineer
23 Jun 25  `* Re: Wizard of Id: Mutual Destruction2Scott Dorsey
23 Jun 25   `- Re: Wizard of Id: Mutual Destruction1Tony Nance
23 Jun 25 * Clarke Award Finalists 20022James Nicoll
23 Jun 25 `- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20021Garrett Wollman
18 Jun 25 * Maybe a logic slip4Stefan Ram
21 Jun 25 +* Re: Maybe a logic slip2Robert Carnegie
22 Jun 25 i`- Re: Maybe a logic slip1Stefan Ram
23 Jun 25 `- Re: Maybe a logic slip1Stefan Ram
19 May 25 * OT Weird Chess News.18Titus G
19 May 25 +* Re: OT Weird Chess News.14Paul S Person
19 May 25 i`* Re: OT Weird Chess News.13William Hyde
20 May 25 i +* Re: OT Weird Chess News.11Paul S Person
20 May 25 i i`* Re: OT Weird Chess News.10William Hyde
21 May 25 i i +* Re: OT Weird Chess News.6Graham
21 May 25 i i i`* Re: OT Weird Chess News.5William Hyde
22 May 25 i i i `* Re: OT Weird Chess News.4Graham
22 May 25 i i i  `* Re: OT Weird Chess News.3William Hyde
22 May 25 i i i   `* Re: OT Weird Chess News.2Robert Woodward
22 May 25 i i i    `- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1William Hyde
23 May 25 i i +- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1Robert Carnegie
9 Jun 25 i i +- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1Thomas Koenig
9 Jun 25 i i `- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1William Hyde
23 Jun 25 i `- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1quadibloc
19 May 25 `* Re: OT Weird Chess News.3Scott Dorsey
19 May 25  `* Re: OT Weird Chess News.2William Hyde
9 Jun 25   `- Re: OT Weird Chess News.1William Hyde
20 Jun 25 * ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”7Lynn McGuire
22 Jun 25 `* Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”6Scott Dorsey
22 Jun 25  +- Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”1James Nicoll
22 Jun 25  +- Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”1Cryptoengineer
22 Jun 25  `* Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”3Lynn McGuire
23 Jun 25   `* Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”2Scott Dorsey
23 Jun 25    `- Re: ““Just a Scratch”: Elon Musk Reacts to Massive Explosion of Starship During Launchpad Test”1Lynn McGuire
22 Jun 25 * AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed2Thomas Koenig
22 Jun 25 `- Re: AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed1Christian Weisgerber
22 Jun 25 o (Tears) The Delikon by H M Hoover1James Nicoll
7 Jun 25 * xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump34Lynn McGuire
8 Jun 25 +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump28Ted Goldblatt
8 Jun 25 i+- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Mark Jackson
8 Jun 25 i`* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump26Robert Carnegie
8 Jun 25 i +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump24Paul S Person
8 Jun 25 i i+* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump16Mark Jackson
9 Jun 25 i ii`* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump15Lynn McGuire
9 Jun 25 i ii +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump2Cryptoengineer
9 Jun 25 i ii i`- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Lynn McGuire
9 Jun 25 i ii +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump5Thomas Koenig
9 Jun 25 i ii i+* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump3Scott Dorsey
9 Jun 25 i ii ii+- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Thomas Koenig
9 Jun 25 i ii ii`- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Lynn McGuire
10 Jun 25 i ii i`- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Paul S Person
9 Jun 25 i ii `* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump7William Hyde
10 Jun 25 i ii  `* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump6Paul S Person
10 Jun 25 i ii   +- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1William Hyde
11 Jun 25 i ii   +- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Titus G
11 Jun 25 i ii   +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump2Paul S Person
11 Jun 25 i ii   i`- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Scott Dorsey
13 Jun 25 i ii   `- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Scott Dorsey
10 Jun 25 i i`* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump7Paul S Person
11 Jun 25 i i +* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump3Lynn McGuire
13 Jun 25 i i i`* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump2Scott Dorsey
13 Jun 25 i i i `- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Lynn McGuire
11 Jun 25 i i `* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump3Paul S Person
11 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump2Lynn McGuire
12 Jun 25 i i   `- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Paul S Person
8 Jun 25 i `- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Scott Dorsey
8 Jun 25 +- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Thomas Koenig
8 Jun 25 +- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Paul S Person
8 Jun 25 +- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Scott Dorsey
18 Jun 25 `* Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump2Dob
21 Jun 25  `- Re: xkcd: Neighbor-Source Heat Pump1Robert Carnegie
20 Jun 25 o Wizard of Id: Pet Dragon1Lynn McGuire
20 Jun 25 o (WFC) The Library at Hellebore by Cassandra Khaw1James Nicoll
20 Jun 25 o R.I.P. Ján Uličiansky, 68, in May 2024 (Slovak playwright & 2-time HCAA finalist)1Lenona
19 Jun 25 o “SpaceX’s Starship Explodes During Routine Test in Texas”1Lynn McGuire
19 Jun 25 o Semi-OT: R.I.P. Michael Allaby, 91, in May (UK science writer, was in "Dr. Who")1Lenona
19 Jun 25 o (Review) In The Garden of Iden (Company, volume 1) by Kage Baker1James Nicoll
17 Jun 25 * (review) Disgraced Return of The Kap's Needle by Renan Bernardo4James Nicoll
18 Jun 25 `* Re: (review) Disgraced Return of The Kap's Needle by Renan Bernardo3quadibloc
18 Jun 25  `* Re: (review) Disgraced Return of The Kap's Needle by Renan Bernardo2quadibloc
19 Jun 25   `- Tritheist FourBricks.1Titus G
17 Jun 25 * The song for today is “Breakdown” by The Alan Parsons Project from the “I Robot” album3Lynn McGuire
17 Jun 25 `* Re: The song for today is “Breakdown” by The Alan Parsons Project from the “I Robot” album2Tony Nance
18 Jun 25  `- Re: The song for today is “Breakdown” by The Alan Parsons Project from the “I Robot” album1Lynn McGuire
15 Jun 25 * (Tears) Homeward and Beyond by Poul Anderson2James Nicoll
17 Jun 25 `- Re: (Tears) Homeward and Beyond by Poul Anderson1Tony Nance
17 Jun 25 o Hard enough!1Stefan Ram
16 Jun 25 o "The Remaining: Extinction (The Remaining, 6)" by D. J. Molles1Lynn McGuire
15 Jun 25 o “SpaceX Hits a Big Milestone for Starlink Satellite Production”1Lynn McGuire
15 Jun 25 o Pearls Before Swine: Carry-on1Lynn McGuire
15 Jun 25 o Pearls Before Swine: Ice Cream1Lynn McGuire

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