Re: Bad faith and dishonesty

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Sujet : Re: Bad faith and dishonesty
De : rjh (at) *nospam* cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 31. May 2025, 11:03:10
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On 31/05/2025 10:42, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-05-30 17:27:05 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 5/30/2025 12:06 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
<snip>

As far as I can recall, Olcott's ramblings never go within discus- throwing distance of a potentially erroneous step.
>
There is no *INPUT* D to termination analyzer H
that can possibly do the opposite of whatever
value that H returns.
 We can apply Truing'c construction to every Truing machine and
 prove that no Turing machine is a halting decider. With a
similar construction many other problems about Turing machine
behaviour can be proven uncomputable, too.
Indeed. In fact, if I'm reading Mr Olcott's retort correctly...
Turing: imagine a program P...
Turing: ...argument goes here...
Turing: ...and it turns out that P can't exist.
Olcott: Turing is wrong, because P can't exist.
I /seeeeee.../
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25 May 25 * Re: Bad faith and dishonesty289Mikko
25 May 25 `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty288olcott
25 May 25  +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty127Fred. Zwarts
25 May 25  i`* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty126olcott
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25 May 25  i i i   +- Re: Bad faith and dishonesty1dbush
25 May 25  i i i   +* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty73Alan Mackenzie
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26 May 25  i i i   i       i `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty56Fred. Zwarts
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27 May 25  i i i   i       i        `* Re: Bad faith and dishonesty49olcott
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