Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 05. Jul 2025, 16:18:46
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On 7/5/2025 4:06 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-04 20:16:34 +0000, olcott said:
 
https://claude.ai/share/48aab578-aec3-44a5-8bb3-6851e0f8b02e
 Perhaps an artificial idiot can think better than you but it does
not think better than most participants of these discussions.
 
Yet you cannot point out any actual error.

What is not provable is not analytic truth.
I totally agree. Not only must it be provable it must
be provable semantically not merely syntactically.
Claude does provide the proof on the basis of understandings
that I provided to it. Here is the key new one:
Since no Turing machine can take another directly executing
Turing machine as an input they are outside of the domain
of any Turing machine based decider.
The requirement that a partial halt decider to report on the
behavior of a directly executed machine has always been bogus.

Opinions of artificial
idiots are not relevant. You have not proven any of your claims.
 
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Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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4 Jul 25 * Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof52olcott
4 Jul 25 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Richard Damon
4 Jul 25 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
5 Jul 25 i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 25 i i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
6 Jul 25 i i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
6 Jul 25 i i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 25 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
6 Jul 25 i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
5 Jul 25 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof41Mikko
5 Jul 25  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof40olcott
6 Jul 25   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof39Mikko
6 Jul 25    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof38olcott
6 Jul 25     +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
7 Jul09:20     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof36Mikko
7 Jul14:57      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof35olcott
8 Jul00:10       +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
8 Jul08:41       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof33Mikko
8 Jul15:18        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof32olcott
9 Jul09:29         +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof30Mikko
9 Jul13:31         i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof29olcott
9 Jul15:04         i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof15joes
9 Jul15:16         i i+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13olcott
10 Jul10:05         i ii+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof11Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i iii`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
11 Jul09:43         i iii `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Mikko
11 Jul16:30         i iii  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
11 Jul16:50         i iii   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6joes
11 Jul21:52         i iii   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5olcott
11 Jul23:58         i iii   i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
12 Jul11:54         i iii   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
12 Jul16:18         i iii   i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
12 Jul23:58         i iii   i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul23:55         i iii   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
10 Jul12:26         i ii`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
9 Jul16:09         i i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
10 Jul10:02         i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13Mikko
10 Jul15:09         i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof12olcott
10 Jul15:55         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul02:59         i   i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul02:58         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8Richard Damon
11 Jul04:58         i   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7André G. Isaak
11 Jul05:29         i   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6olcott
11 Jul05:42         i   i  +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4André G. Isaak
11 Jul06:12         i   i  i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
12 Jul18:09         i   i  i +- André G. Isaak still has not noticed his mistake1olcott
13 Jul00:03         i   i  i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul14:35         i   i  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul09:47         i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
9 Jul12:09         `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon

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