Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 09:43:10
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On 2025-07-10 14:09:55 +0000, olcott said:

On 7/10/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-09 14:16:44 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/9/2025 9:04 AM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 09 Jul 2025 07:31:59 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/9/2025 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-08 14:18:32 +0000, olcott said:
On 7/8/2025 2:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
 
True conclusion from false premeises is fairly common. But that is
not relevant.
It proves that logic is fundamentally incorrect on this point.
Logic must be a sequence of truth preserving operations or it is
wrong.
Should only false conclusions be derivable from false premises?
 False premises must be immediately rejected.
 Often one must work with sentences that are not known to be true but
not known to be false, either.
 
 Then contradiction proves falsehood.
That's right: if a contradiction is inferred then at least one of the
preimises is false. But that does not tell which premise is false.
--
Mikko

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4 Jul 25 * Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof53olcott
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6 Jul 25 i i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 25 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
6 Jul 25 i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
5 Jul 25 +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
5 Jul 25 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof42Mikko
5 Jul 25  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof41olcott
6 Jul 25   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof40Mikko
6 Jul 25    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof39olcott
6 Jul 25     +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
7 Jul 25     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof37Mikko
7 Jul 25      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof36olcott
8 Jul 25       +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
8 Jul 25       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof34Mikko
8 Jul 25        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof33olcott
9 Jul 25         +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof31Mikko
9 Jul 25         i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof30olcott
9 Jul 25         i +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof15joes
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10 Jul 25         i ii+* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof11Mikko
10 Jul 25         i iii`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof10olcott
11 Jul 25         i iii `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Mikko
11 Jul 25         i iii  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
11 Jul 25         i iii   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6joes
11 Jul 25         i iii   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5olcott
11 Jul 25         i iii   i +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
12 Jul 25         i iii   i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
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10 Jul 25         i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof14Mikko
10 Jul 25         i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof13olcott
10 Jul 25         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul 25         i   i`- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul 25         i   +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof9Richard Damon
11 Jul 25         i   i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8André G. Isaak
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11 Jul 25         i   i  +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5André G. Isaak
11 Jul 25         i   i  i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4olcott
12 Jul 25         i   i  i +- André G. Isaak still has not noticed his mistake1olcott
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11 Jul 25         i   i  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul 25         i   `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Mikko
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