Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller

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Sujet : Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 13. Jul 2025, 21:37:59
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Organisation : i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On 7/13/25 11:48 AM, olcott wrote:
On 7/12/2025 6:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/12/25 11:16 AM, olcott wrote:
On 7/12/2025 5:52 AM, joes wrote:
Am Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:13:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/11/2025 3:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>
As usual claims without evidence. If we do not change the input (which
aborts after a few cycles o simulation), then the simulating HHH could
reach the final halt state without abort.
>
It is a very easily verified fact that the input never aborts anything
at all.
>
Only because it is aborted in turn.
>
HHH(DDD) simulates its input until it sees that
DDD cannot possibly stop running unless aborted.
>
Then why does the direct execution of DDD halt?
>
 The direct execution is a different sequence of steps
because it is reaping the benefits of HHH having already
aborted its own input.
 
So?
What step in HHHs correct simulation differed from the direct execution?
If there is none, then you can't claim that it was different.
It seems you think you can run a marathon by taking a couple of steps from the starting line and then giving up.
Sorry, you are just proving you are just a liar.

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