Sujet : Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Try to prove otherwise
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logicDate : 30. May 2024, 00:57:52
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On 5/29/2024 6:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 5/29/24 2:31 PM, olcott wrote:
On 5/29/2024 1:14 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
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How about a bit of respect? Mike specifically asked you not to cite his
name as a back up for your points. Why do you keep doing it?
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He does it to try to rope more people in. It's the same ploy as
insulting people by name. It's hard to ignore being maligned in public
by a fool.
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*Thanks for validating my simplified encoding of the Linz*
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When Ĥ is applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qy ∞
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qn
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I really did believe that Ben Bacarisse was lying when I said it.
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At the time I was talking about the easily verified fact of the actual
execution trace of fully operational code and everyone was denying the
easily verified facts.
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typedef int (*ptr)(); // ptr is pointer to int function in C
00 int H(ptr p, ptr i);
01 int D(ptr p)
02 {
03 int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
04 if (Halt_Status)
05 HERE: goto HERE;
06 return Halt_Status;
07 }
08
09 int main()
10 {
11 H(D,D);
12 return 0;
13 }
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It turns out that two dozen people are easily proven wrong when
they claimed that the correct simulation of the input to H(D,D)
is the behavior of int main() { D(D); }
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How is that?
When D is correctly simulated by H using an x86 emulator the only
way that the emulated D can reach its own emulated final state
at line 06 and halt is
(a) The x86 machine code of D is emulated incorrectly
(b) The x86 machine code of D is emulated in the wrong order
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Which isn't a "Correct Simulation" by the definition that allow the relating of a "Simulation" to the behavior of an input.
Right the execution trace of D simulated by pure function H using
an x86 emulator must show that D cannot possibly reach its own
simulated final state and halt or the simulation of the machine
language of D is incorrect or in the wrong order.
*FULLY OPERATIONAL CODE DOES SHOW THIS*
I may not look at any of you other replies until after this
one is fully resolved.
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