Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met

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Sujet : Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.com (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 24. Jun 2024, 20:52:04
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Am Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:46:56 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 6/24/2024 2:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-23 13:13:42 +0000, olcott said:
On 6/23/2024 2:57 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-22 14:11:28 +0000, olcott said:
On 6/22/2024 8:27 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/22/24 9:04 AM, olcott wrote:

In particular, you can't. You have insisted that your "decider" or
"anlyzer" (or whatever word you happen to use) H or HH (or hwatever
name you happen to use) must return false because a non-input (where
instead of the actually called function another function that does
not halt is called) does not halt.

Which is all we need to know about H in ordet to determine that it is
not a decider.
 
void DDD()
{
   H0(DDD);
}
The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated by H0 cannot
possibly return.
Why not? H0 is a decider AND simulator, so it can simulate itself
terminating.

--
Man kann mit dunklen Zahlen nicht rechnen. Für die eigentliche Mathematik
sind sie vollkommen nutzlos. --Wolfgang Mückenheim

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Jun 24 * Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met20olcott
22 Jun 24 +* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met3Richard Damon
22 Jun 24 i`* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met2olcott
22 Jun 24 i `- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Richard Damon
22 Jun 24 +- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1joes
23 Jun 24 `* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met15Mikko
23 Jun 24  `* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met14olcott
24 Jun 24   `* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met13Mikko
24 Jun 24    `* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met12olcott
24 Jun 24     +* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met10joes
24 Jun 24     i+* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met7Alan Mackenzie
24 Jun 24     ii+* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met4olcott
25 Jun 24     iii+- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Richard Damon
25 Jun 24     iii+- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1joes
25 Jun 24     iii`- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Fred. Zwarts
25 Jun 24     ii`* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met2Mikko
25 Jun 24     ii `- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Alan Mackenzie
24 Jun 24     i`* Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met2olcott
25 Jun 24     i `- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Richard Damon
25 Jun 24     `- Re: Simulating termination analyzers by dummies --- criteria is met1Richard Damon

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