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Am Sun, 03 Nov 2024 09:16:39 -0600 schrieb olcott:It is the fact that in all of the conventional HP proofsOn 11/3/2024 8:32 AM, joes wrote:Am Sat, 02 Nov 2024 20:33:40 -0500 schrieb olcott:On 11/2/2024 8:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 11/2/24 9:00 PM, olcott wrote:On 11/2/2024 7:52 PM, Richard Damon wrote:On 11/2/24 8:38 PM, olcott wrote:On 11/2/2024 7:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:On 11/2/24 5:13 PM, olcott wrote:On 11/2/2024 3:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:On 11/2/24 12:56 PM, olcott wrote:On 11/2/2024 10:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote:On 11/2/24 8:24 AM, olcott wrote:LLMs literally string words they have previously seen together.ChatGPT (using its own words) and I both agree that HHH isIn other words you are admitting that it isn't actually lookingOf course, that is for this exact input, which uses the copy ofNo it is not.
H that does abort and return.
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when HHH simulates DDD(), it's analyzing an "idealized"
version of DDD() where nothing stops the recursion.
at the input it was given.
supposed to predict the behavior of the infinite emulation on the
basis of its finite emulation.
>Haha what? It absolutely is. For a nonterminating input a haltingYes, but that behavior is DEFINED by the actual behavior of theNo it is not. It is never based on the actual behavior of the actual
actual machine.
machine for any non-terminating inputs.
decider must return that it doesn't halt.Ok great, let's just exchange them then. How does HHH1 simulate*HHH1 has identical source code to HHH*Especially not some DDD that calls a non-aborting simulator HHH1.Then you don't undetstand the requirement for something to be aThe actual behavior specified by the finite string input to HHH does
semantic property.
include HHH emulating itself emulating DDD such that this DD *not some
other DDD somewhere else*
EEE(){HHH1(EEE);} and FFF(){HHH(DDD);}?
DDD emulated by HHH CANNOT POSSIBLY reach its own return instruction.Hm, the program under test is the same here. The difference must be in
DDD emulated by HHH1 DOES REACH its own return instruction.
the testing program.
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