Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---Breakthrough ?

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Sujet : Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---Breakthrough ?
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 09. Nov 2024, 16:02:09
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On 11/8/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/8/24 8:32 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/8/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/8/24 8:22 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/8/2024 11:01 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/8/24 10:02 AM, olcott wrote:
On 11/8/2024 6:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/7/24 10:56 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/7/2024 9:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/7/24 11:31 AM, olcott wrote:
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DDD emulated by HHH has the property that DDD never reaches
its "return" instruction final halt state.
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But DDD emulated by HHH isn't an objective property of DDD.
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It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
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No it isn't
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Liar.
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No, you are, becuase you don't know know what the words mean.
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The semantic property is the results of the COMPLETE emulation of the input given to HHH,
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That you keep going back to the moronic idea of completely
emulating a non-terminating input makes you look quite stupid.
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Why do you say that?
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It is the DEFINITION of a semantic property.
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*You yourself have already disagreed with that*
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On 11/3/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > On 11/3/24 9:39 AM, olcott wrote:
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 >> The finite string input to HHH specifies that HHH
 >> MUST EMULATE ITSELF emulating DDD.
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 > Right, and it must CORRECTLY determine what an unbounded
 > emulation of that input would do, even if its own programming
 > only lets it emulate a part of that.
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 So, you don't understand what an "unbound emulation" is.
 
An emulation that is unbounded has no aborts.

Sorry, you are just proving your ignorance.
 An "Unbound Emulation" is a term of art that means an emulation that proceeds for an unbouned number of steps, in lay-terms, and infinite number of steps.
 
Yes. I knew that.

That is the same as "Completely".
 
Not at all. It is very stupid to say that for non-halting inputs.
It is stupid in the same way as asking what is the last natural number?
 > ...even if its own programming
 > only lets it emulate a part of that.
In other words the finite computation of HHH
 > must CORRECTLY determine what an unbounded
 > emulation of that input would do
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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