Sujet : Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 22. Nov 2024, 19:28:18
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On 11/22/2024 12:07 PM, joes wrote:
Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:36:25 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/22/2024 9:16 AM, joes wrote:
Am Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:50:33 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/22/2024 6:20 AM, joes wrote:
Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:19:43 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/21/2024 3:11 PM, joes wrote:
Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:19:03 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/20/2024 10:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/20/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/20/2024 5:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/20/24 5:03 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/20/2024 3:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-11-20 03:23:12 +0000, olcott said:
On 11/19/2024 4:12 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-11-18 20:42:02 +0000, olcott said:
On 11/18/2024 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
The "the mapping" on the subject line is not correct. The
subject line does not specify which mapping and there is
no larger context that could specify that. Therefore it
should be "a mapping".
On 2024-11-17 18:36:17 +0000, olcott said:
But it gets the wrong answer for the halting problem, as DDD dpes
halt.
DDD emulated by HHH does not halt.
Whatever. DDD halts and HHH should return that.
IT IS NOT THE SAME INSTANCE OF DDD.
All instances of DDD behave the same (if it is a pure function and
the HHH called from it doesn't switch behaviour by a static
variable).
Only HHH is required to be a pure function, DDD is expressly allowed
to be any damn thing.
TMs don't have side effects, such as reading a static Root variable.
The static root variable has not one damn thing to do with the
fact that DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "return"
instruction.
It does. If it were always set to True, all instances of the same HHH
would abort and halt. Why else would it be there?
WE HAVE NOT BEEN TALKING ABOUT ABORT/NOT ABORT
FOR THREE FREAKING MONTHS. WAKE THE F-CK UP.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DDD EMULATED BY HHH
REACHING ITS FINAL HALT STATE
The behavior of DDD emulated by HHH is different than the actual
behavior of DDD emulated by HHH1.
Yes. HHH simulates it incorrectly.
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