Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?

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Sujet : Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.com (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 03. May 2024, 21:30:57
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Am Fri, 03 May 2024 07:25:47 -0500 schrieb olcott:

On 5/2/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Yes, there are a LOT of non-terminating programs that can be detected.
 
The problem is that when you make H and D actual programs, if H(D,D)
returns 0, then D(D) is NOT a "non-terminating" program.
 
Now, part of the issue is that this form of Termination Analysis isn't
as concerned about being able to be 100% for every possible program, but
wants to look at what classes of programs CAN be very reliably decided on.
 
So yes, it is RELATED to halting, but has a different criteria for what
is considered a solution. In part, because they KNOW that 100% accuracy
on EVERY program is impossible, so they want to study what CAN be done.
 
In the field, rejecting "hostile" programs that are trying to be
intentionally hard to decide isn't considered a failure.
 
 
YOU TRIED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT AWAY FROM THIS.
I ONLY GLANCED AT A FEW OF YOUR WORDS TO TELL THAT YOU
TRIED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT. ONCE I CAN TELL THAT YOU
ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT I QUIT READING.

This reminds me a lot of what you accused us of
(reading only the beginning and jumping to conclusions).


--
joes

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28 Apr 24 +* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?35Richard Damon
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28 Apr 24 i   i  `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?25olcott
28 Apr 24 i   i   `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?24Richard Damon
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28 Apr 24 i   i         i  `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE10olcott
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28 Apr 24 i   i         i    +* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE2olcott
29 Apr 24 i   i         i    i`- Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE1Richard Damon
29 Apr 24 i   i         i    `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE6olcott
29 Apr 24 i   i         i     `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE5Richard Damon
29 Apr 24 i   i         i      `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE4olcott
29 Apr 24 i   i         i       `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE3Richard Damon
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30 Apr 24 i   i         i         `- Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE1Richard Damon
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28 Apr 24   i   i   `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?301Richard Damon
28 Apr 24   i   i    +* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?251olcott
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29 Apr 24   i   i    ii     `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?93Richard Damon
29 Apr 24   i   i    ii      `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?92olcott
30 Apr 24   i   i    ii       `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?91Richard Damon
30 Apr 24   i   i    ii        `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?90olcott
30 Apr 24   i   i    ii         `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?89Richard Damon
30 Apr 24   i   i    ii          `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?88olcott
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1 May 24   i   i    ii            `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?86olcott
1 May 24   i   i    ii             `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?85Richard Damon
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2 May 24   i   i    ii               `* Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?83Richard Damon
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