Sujet : Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally?
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 03. May 2024, 23:26:02
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On 5/3/2024 2:30 PM, joes wrote:
Am Fri, 03 May 2024 07:25:47 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 5/2/2024 8:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Yes, there are a LOT of non-terminating programs that can be detected.
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The problem is that when you make H and D actual programs, if H(D,D)
returns 0, then D(D) is NOT a "non-terminating" program.
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Now, part of the issue is that this form of Termination Analysis isn't
as concerned about being able to be 100% for every possible program, but
wants to look at what classes of programs CAN be very reliably decided on.
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So yes, it is RELATED to halting, but has a different criteria for what
is considered a solution. In part, because they KNOW that 100% accuracy
on EVERY program is impossible, so they want to study what CAN be done.
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In the field, rejecting "hostile" programs that are trying to be
intentionally hard to decide isn't considered a failure.
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YOU TRIED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT AWAY FROM THIS.
I ONLY GLANCED AT A FEW OF YOUR WORDS TO TELL THAT YOU
TRIED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT. ONCE I CAN TELL THAT YOU
ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT I QUIT READING.
This reminds me a lot of what you accused us of
(reading only the beginning and jumping to conclusions).
I told Richard that I am only willing to discuss one single point
until we have mutual agreement on this point.
Most everyone uses his change-the-subject form of rebuttal
to make sure that we never get any closure on anything.
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