Re: Every D correctly simulated by H never reaches its final state and halts

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Sujet : Re: Every D correctly simulated by H never reaches its final state and halts
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 18. May 2024, 16:55:38
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On 5/18/2024 8:30 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-05-17 17:46:29 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 5/17/2024 11:00 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-05-17 15:30:01 +0000, olcott said:
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On 5/17/2024 2:25 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 17.mei.2024 om 03:15 schreef olcott:
The following is self-evidently true on the basis of the
semantics of the C programming language.
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typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function
00 int H(ptr x, ptr x);
01 int D(ptr x)
02 {
03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
04   if (Halt_Status)
05     HERE: goto HERE;
06   return Halt_Status;
07 }
08
09 int main()
10 {
11   H(D,D);
12   return 0;
13 }
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In the above case a simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly
emulates at least one of the x86 instructions of D in the order
specified by the x86 instructions of D.
>
This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H
in the order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling
H(D,D) in recursive simulation.
>
Any H/D pair matching the above template where
D(D) is simulated by the same H(D,D) that it calls
cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt.
>
*This is a simple software engineering verified fact*
>
>
Note that olcott defines 'verified fact' as 'proven fact', but he is unable to show the proof. So, it must be read as 'my belief'.
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It is self-evidently true to anyone having sufficient knowledge
of the semantics of the C programming language.
>
No, it isn't, because the C code of H is not shown.
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*I DON'T KNOW WHY I MUST REPEAT THIS HUNDREDS OF TIMES*
The C code that <is> shown provides the template for the
infinite set of every D correctly simulated by H.
 You need to repeat this because what you said is defective,
*Try and show exactly how the following is defective*
*Try and show exactly how the following is defective*
*Try and show exactly how the following is defective*

so it cannot be understood as you want and you don't know how
you could fix it so that you could say what you want to say.
 
typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function
00 int H(ptr x, ptr y);
01 int D(ptr x)
02 {
03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
04   if (Halt_Status)
05     HERE: goto HERE;
06   return Halt_Status;
07 }
08
09 int main()
10 {
11   H(D,D);
12   return 0;
13 }
In the above case a simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates at least one of the x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the x86 instructions of D.
This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H in the order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling H(D,D) in recursive simulation.
Execution Trace
Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D);
keeps repeating (unless aborted)
Line 01:
Line 02:
Line 03: simulated D(D) invokes simulated H(D,D) that simulates D(D)
Simulation invariant:
D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.
The key thing to note is that no D simulated correctly by any H of every H/D pair specified by the above template ever reaches its own line 06 and halts.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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