Re: Two dozen people were simply wrong --- Try to prove otherwise --- pinned down

On 6/1/24 7:12 PM, olcott wrote:

On 6/1/2024 6:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 6/1/24 6:40 PM, olcott wrote:

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Show me where I said anything in the above spec about an aborted simulation.

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So, why did HH stop simulating after some n steps?
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Did it reach a final state in the simulation? if not, it ABORTED its simulation.
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When every possible which way DD correctly simulated by HH never reaches
past its own simulated line 03 then

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And a simulation either goes until it reaches a final state of the machine it is simulating, or it aborted its simulation.
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 typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
00       int HH(ptr p, ptr i);
01       int DD(ptr p)
02       {
03         int Halt_Status = HH(p, p);
04         if (Halt_Status)
05           HERE: goto HERE;
06         return Halt_Status;
07       }
08
09       int main()
10       {
11         HH(DD,DD);
12         return 0;
13       }
 When every DD correctly simulated by any HH cannot possibly reach
past its own simulated line 03 in 1 to ∞ steps of correct simulation
of DD by HH then we have exhaustively examined every possible HH/DD
pair and each element has of this infinite set has the same property.

So?
It doesn't matter how many aborted simulaiton you do of a given input (and each HH simulated a DIFFERENT input since it simulated the INSTANCE of the template with a different HH)
The ONLY simulation that actually showed that ITS input was no-halting was the HH that never aborted, and it didn't answer.
Every other HH has a DIFFERENT INPUT and would be LYING to say it had that other input.

 *THIS PROVES THAT THE INPUT TO H(DD,DD) DOES NOT HALT*
*THIS PROVES THAT THE INPUT TO H(DD,DD) DOES NOT HALT*
*THIS PROVES THAT THE INPUT TO H(DD,DD) DOES NOT HALT*

Nope. Aborted simulation don't prove anything.
So either HH found a final state, and thus should have said Halting, or it aborted its simulation and doesn't prove anything.

 

Nope, prove you don't know what you are talking about, or are just a liar destined for Gehenna,
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 Are you willing to bet your soul on the claim that you believe
that you are telling the truth? I do believe that I am telling
the truth and I also believe that you already know that I am
correct about the above statements that I made.
 

Sure. Because I know what I know.
Are you really willing to bet yours?
Remember, you know you have made mistakes on this in the past.
After all, you just claimed that you HH never aborted its simulations (or at least implied that as you said the you never mentioned a simulaiton being aborted as a reason to ignore that aborted simulation don't prove non-halting behavior).
So, you just proved yourself to be a liar, as either they SHOULD be saying Halting because they stopped because they completed, or they should be still simulating, but they only did a finite number of steps, or the aborted their simulation.
How's the lake?
Or, since you lost it already, does it not matter any more?