Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation

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Sujet : Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 07. Jun 2024, 14:57:30
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On 6/7/2024 1:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-06 18:49:32 +0000, Rafael Doofenschmirtz said:
 
On 6/06/24 20:35, olcott wrote:
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
  If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
  until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
  stop running unless aborted then
>
  H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
  specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>
*Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever*
*stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH*
>
_DD()
[00001e12] 55         push ebp
[00001e13] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp
[00001e15] 51         push ecx
[00001e16] 8b4508     mov  eax,[ebp+08]
[00001e19] 50         push eax      ; push DD
[00001e1a] 8b4d08     mov  ecx,[ebp+08]
[00001e1d] 51         push ecx      ; push DD
[00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH
>
>
after HH returns 0, the program counter proceeds to address 00001e23, and then, a few instructions later DD also returns
 
Because DD correctly simulated by HH remains stuck in recursive
simulation until HH aborts its simulation of DD
*HH never returns anything to any simulated DD AND*
If simulating halt decider HH correctly simulates its input DD
until HH correctly determines that its simulated DD would never
stop running unless aborted then
HH can abort its simulation of DD and correctly report that DD
specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
That is what HH does.

If HH ever returns. The challenge does not specify anything about
HH other than it simulates the same DD. In particular, the last
shown line may cause HH to simulate itself, depending on how HH
interpretes it.
 
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Jun 24 * DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation15olcott
6 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Rafael Doofenschmirtz
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3Mikko
7 Jun 24 i `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation2olcott
7 Jun 24 i  `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
7 Jun 24 +* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4Mikko
7 Jun 24 i`* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation3olcott
7 Jun 24 i +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon
8 Jun 24 i `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Mikko
7 Jun 24 `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation5Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24  `* Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation4olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1olcott
7 Jun 24   +- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Fred. Zwarts
7 Jun 24   `- Re: DD correctly simulated by HH --- never stops running without aborting its simulation1Richard Damon

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