Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?

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Sujet : Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 14. Jul 2024, 15:36:52
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On 7/14/2024 3:00 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-07-13 18:15:35 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/13/2024 12:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/13/24 12:48 PM, olcott wrote:
What is the correct halt status for an input to
a simulating termination analyzer that calls its
own termination analyzer?
>
typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
>
void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
}
>
int main()
{
   HHH(DDD);
}
>
>
Halting.
>
Since HHH defined to be a termination analyzer, by that definition it must return to its caller.
>
Since DDD has no inputs, its behavior isn't affected by any inputs, and thus DDD will halt for ALL input conditions, so
>
You are stupidly saying that Infinite_Loop() will halt because
it has no inputs.
 
void Infinite_Loop()
{
   HERE: goto HERE;
}
 You are stupidly saying that Infinite loop is executed as a part of HHH.
 
Infinite_Loop() is emulated in its own process context.
HHH calls the x86utm instruction DebugStep() to emulate
one instruction of _Infinite_Loop() at a time.
u32  DebugStep(Registers* master_state,
                Registers* slave_state,
                Decoded_Line_Of_Code* decoded);
_Infinite_Loop()
[00002137] 55         push ebp
[00002138] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000213a] ebfe       jmp 0000213a
[0000213c] 5d         pop ebp
[0000213d] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0007) [0000213d]
  machine   stack     stack     machine    assembly
  address   address   data      code       language
  ========  ========  ========  =========  =============
[00002197][001037fb][00000000] 55         push ebp
[00002198][001037fb][00000000] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000219a][001037f7][00002137] 6837210000 push 00002137
[0000219f][001037f3][000021a4] e833f4ffff call 000015d7
New slave_stack at:10389f --- new process context
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:1138a7
[00002137][00113897][0011389b] 55         push ebp
[00002138][00113897][0011389b] 8bec       mov ebp,esp
[0000213a][00113897][0011389b] ebfe       jmp 0000213a
[0000213a][00113897][0011389b] ebfe       jmp 0000213a
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Loop Detected Simulation Stopped
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Jul 24 * Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?14Richard Damon
13 Jul 24 +* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?11olcott
13 Jul 24 i+* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?7Richard Damon
13 Jul 24 ii`* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology6olcott
13 Jul 24 ii `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology5Richard Damon
13 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology4olcott
13 Jul 24 ii   `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology3Richard Damon
13 Jul 24 ii    `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology2olcott
13 Jul 24 ii     `- Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ? --- Tautology1Richard Damon
14 Jul 24 i`* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?3Mikko
14 Jul 24 i `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?2olcott
15 Jul 24 i  `- Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?1Mikko
13 Jul 24 `* Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?2olcott
13 Jul 24  `- Re: What is the correct halt status for HHH(DDD) ?1Richard Damon

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