Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true?

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Sujet : Re: Who here understands that the last paragraph is Necessarily true?
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 15. Jul 2024, 13:09:09
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On 7/14/24 11:41 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/14/2024 9:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/14/24 9:27 PM, olcott wrote:
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Any input that must be aborted to prevent the non termination
of simulating termination analyzer HHH necessarily specifies
non-halting behavior or it would never need to be aborted.
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Excpet, as I have shown, it doesn't.
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Your problem is you keep on ILEGALLY changing the input in your argument because you have misdefined what the input is.
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The input to HHH is ALL of the memory that it would be accessed in a correct simulation of DDD, which includes all the codd of HHH, and thus, if you change HHH you get a different input.
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If you want to try to claim the input is just the bytes of the function DDD proper then you are just admitting that you are nothing more than a lying idiot that doesn't understand the problem,
Turing machines only operate on finite strings they do
not operate on other Turing machines *dumbo*
 
But they can operate on REPRESENTATIONS of Turing Machines, just like ALL processing machines work on representations for almost everything they do.
But, the representation needs to include ALL the relevant information about the thing that is being represented, so, when representing a program to a program, you need to include representations of ALL the code of that program that is needed to run it.
YOU seem to be the flying elephant.

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