Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)

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Sujet : Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 30. Aug 2024, 18:31:43
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On 8/30/24 11:59 AM, olcott wrote:
On 8/30/2024 10:00 AM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 28 Aug 2024 14:47:45 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 8/28/2024 2:21 PM, joes wrote:
Am Wed, 28 Aug 2024 11:44:53 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 8/28/2024 11:31 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 28.aug.2024 om 18:21 schreef olcott:
On 8/28/2024 11:11 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 28.aug.2024 om 17:13 schreef olcott:
On 8/28/2024 9:57 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 28.aug.2024 om 14:59 schreef olcott:
On 8/28/2024 7:46 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 28.aug.2024 om 14:12 schreef olcott:
On 8/28/2024 4:09 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 27.aug.2024 om 14:44 schreef olcott:
On 8/27/2024 3:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 27.aug.2024 om 04:33 schreef olcott:
>
When we assume that:
(a) HHH is an x86 emulator that is in the same memory
space as DDD.
(b) HHH emulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86
language.
then we can see that DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly
get past its own machine address 0000217a.
>
Yes, we see. In fact DDD is not needed at all.
When 100% of the whole point is for HHH to correctly determine
whether or not DDD would stop running if not aborted *IT IS
RIDICULOUSLY STUPID TO SAY THAT DDD IS NOT NEEDED*
Like Fred has been saying for a month, what is HHH(HHH)?
^
>
When without DDD it is clear as crystal that HHH cannot
possibly simulate itself correctly:
You may repeat it many more times, but HHH violated the semantics
of the x86 language by skipping the last few instructions of a
halting program. This finite string, when given for direct
execution, shows a halting behaviour. This is the proof what the
semantics of the x86 language means for this finite string: a
halting program.
It is very telling to see where these exchanges peter out (haha).
A dishonest dodge way form the subject of DDD emulated by HHH.
To the subject of what?
>
 DDD emulated by HHH
DDD emulated by HHH
DDD emulated by HHH
DDD emulated by HHH
DDD emulated by HHH
 
Which is the program DDD, the one that HHH emulates (and thus is the one calling that HHH), which includes the code of the HHH that it calls.
NOT, the emulation of DDD by HHH.
The first *WILL* reach its final state if HHH returns, while the second does not.
You are just proving yourself so stupid that you can't tell the difference, because you have lied to yourself so much.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Aug 24 * DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)100olcott
27 Aug 24 +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)4Mikko
27 Aug 24 i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3olcott
28 Aug 24 i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
28 Aug 24 i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Mikko
27 Aug 24 +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)94Fred. Zwarts
27 Aug 24 i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)93olcott
28 Aug 24 i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)69Mikko
28 Aug 24 i i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)68olcott
29 Aug 24 i i `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)67Mikko
29 Aug 24 i i  `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)66olcott
29 Aug 24 i i   +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)10Fred. Zwarts
29 Aug 24 i i   i+* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)6olcott
29 Aug 24 i i   ii+* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)4Fred. Zwarts
29 Aug 24 i i   iii`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3olcott
29 Aug 24 i i   iii +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
30 Aug 24 i i   iii `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
30 Aug 24 i i   ii`- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
29 Aug 24 i i   i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3olcott
29 Aug 24 i i   i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
30 Aug 24 i i   i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
30 Aug 24 i i   +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
30 Aug 24 i i   +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Mikko
30 Aug 24 i i   `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)53joes
30 Aug 24 i i    `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)52olcott
30 Aug 24 i i     +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
31 Aug 24 i i     `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)50Fred. Zwarts
31 Aug 24 i i      `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)49olcott
31 Aug 24 i i       +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)47Fred. Zwarts
31 Aug 24 i i       i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)46olcott
31 Aug 24 i i       i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
31 Aug 24 i i       i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)34Fred. Zwarts
31 Aug 24 i i       i i+* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)31olcott
31 Aug 24 i i       i ii+- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
1 Sep 24 i i       i ii+- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
1 Sep 24 i i       i ii`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)28Mikko
2 Sep 24 i i       i ii `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)27olcott
2 Sep 24 i i       i ii  +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
3 Sep 24 i i       i ii  +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)24Mikko
3 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)23olcott
4 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
4 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)4Fred. Zwarts
4 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3olcott
5 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
5 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
6 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)17Mikko
6 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i  `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)16olcott
6 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
6 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1joes
7 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)12Mikko
7 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)11olcott
7 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
8 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)8Mikko
8 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)7olcott
8 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)5Mikko
9 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)4olcott
10 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
10 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Mikko
10 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
8 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
8 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
7 Sep 24 i i       i ii  i   `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
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31 Aug 24 i i       i  `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)9olcott
31 Aug 24 i i       i   +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
1 Sep 24 i i       i   +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3joes
2 Sep 24 i i       i   i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)2olcott
2 Sep 24 i i       i   i `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
1 Sep 24 i i       i   `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)4Fred. Zwarts
2 Sep 24 i i       i    `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)3olcott
2 Sep 24 i i       i     +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
2 Sep 24 i i       i     `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
31 Aug 24 i i       `- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Richard Damon
28 Aug 24 i `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)23Fred. Zwarts
28 Aug 24 i  `* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)22olcott
28 Aug 24 i   +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)20Fred. Zwarts
28 Aug 24 i   i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)19olcott
28 Aug 24 i   i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)17Fred. Zwarts
28 Aug 24 i   i i`* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)16olcott
28 Aug 24 i   i i +* Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)14Fred. Zwarts
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28 Aug 24 i   i i i i +- Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts)1Fred. Zwarts
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