Re: Pathological self-reference changes the semantics of the same finite string.

On 9/1/2024 6:13 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-08-31 12:26:15 +0000, olcott said:
 

On 8/30/2024 8:22 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-08-30 12:57:49 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/30/2024 3:11 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-08-29 17:53:44 +0000, olcott said:
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I just proved that the basic notion of finite strings
having unique meanings independently of their context
is incorrect.

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The context is the halting problem.

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The behavior of
the directly executed DDD and executed HHH
is different from the behavior of
the emulated DDD and the emulated HHH

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The correct behaviour is the computation that the user wants to
ask about. If the input string specifies a different behaviour
then the input string is worng, not the behaviour.
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int sum(int x, int y) { return x + y; }
And in the exact same way Bill wants to get the
sum of 5+6 from sum(3,2).

 If Bill wants to get the sum of 5 + 6 then there are two possibilites:
either you give him a tool that can give him the sum and instrunctions
of use of that tool; or you don't, in which case Bill may ask someone
else.
 

Bill cannot get the sum of 5+6 from sum(3,2)
the same way that HHH cannot report on the
behavior of the directly executed DDD() on
the basis of DDD emulated by HHH where DDD and
HHH have a pathological relationship.
For three years people have tried to get away with
simply ignoring the elephant in the room of the
pathological relationship between DDD and HHH.
They keep assuming that the behavior of DDD with
a pathological relationship to HHH must be the same
behavior as DDD having no pathological relationship
to HHH1 AGAINST THE VERIFIED FACTS.
When someone contradicts the verified facts this is
the most certain way to determine that they are not
telling the truth.
it now seems like they may have been too indoctrinated
to pay close enough attention to see that their position
directly contradicts verified facts.
Because these things are so dead obvious to me it initially
seemed that they were contradicting the verified facts out
of sadistic pleasure of playing head games.
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