Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar

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Sujet : Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 17. Sep 2024, 00:52:13
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On 9/16/24 8:09 AM, olcott wrote:
On 9/16/2024 6:21 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 15.sep.2024 om 16:23 schreef olcott:
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Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof
D(D) correctly reports its own halt status
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https://www.researchgate.net/ publication/364302709_Rebutting_the_Sipser_Halting_Problem_Proof
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We can see that the first seven instructions of D emulated by H precisely match the first seven instructions of the x86 source-code of D. This conclusively proves that these instructions were emulated correctly.
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Yes H makes a good start, but fails to complete the simulation, because of a bug in the code to recognise an infinite 'recursion'.
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Then if you are not a damned liar you can see this
next part that you dishonestly erased.
 D()
[0000218e] 55             push ebp         ; begin D
[0000218f] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
[00002191] 8b4508         mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00002194] 50             push eax         ; push param
[00002195] 8b4d08         mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00002198] 51             push ecx         ; push param
[00002199] e8a0f2ffff     call 0000143e    ; call H
 After D calls H(D,  D) we can see that H correctly emulates itself emulating D because again we see that the first seven instructions of D emulated by the emulated H precisely match the first seven instructions of the x86 source-code of D. This conclusively proves that these instructions were emulated correctly.
 
But the first seven instruction of D are never executed again, so that CAN'T be a part of a correct simulation of D, including the part where we look at the H that D calls simulatng D, because that should show the actions of H, not the results of the simulation.
At the very least, it needs to say "Based on the CONDITIONAL simulation by H".
Sorry, you are just proving how STUPID and IGNORANT you are of the meaning of the words, that or you are just TOTALLY DISHONEST and lie about what you are doing (or both).
So, YOU are the "DAMNED LIAR", beeause the words you say are just UNTRUE.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Sep16:23 * Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof18olcott
15 Sep18:55 +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof3Richard Damon
15 Sep21:07 i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof2olcott
16 Sep03:10 i `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Richard Damon
16 Sep10:06 +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof3Mikko
16 Sep14:03 i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof2olcott
17 Sep08:51 i `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Mikko
16 Sep10:09 +- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof1Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep13:21 `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof10Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep14:09  `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar9olcott
16 Sep15:36   +* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar7Fred. Zwarts
16 Sep17:58   i`* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D6olcott
17 Sep00:52   i `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D5Richard Damon
17 Sep01:15   i  `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D4olcott
17 Sep04:42   i   `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D3Richard Damon
17 Sep05:13   i    `* Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D2olcott
17 Sep12:59   i     `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- H emulating H emulating D1Richard Damon
17 Sep00:52   `- Re: Rebutting the Sipser Halting Problem Proof --- damned liar1Richard Damon

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