Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question

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Sujet : Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question
De : ben (at) *nospam* bsb.me.uk (Ben Bacarisse)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 27. Sep 2024, 23:42:31
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Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> writes:

On 27/09/2024 00:34, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
nnymous109@gmail.com (nnymous109) writes:
 
Also, I did not know this yesterday, but alternatively, you can access
the document directly through the following link:
https://figshare.com/articles/preprint/On_Higher_Order_Recursions_25SEP2024/27106759?file=49414237
I am hoping that this is a joke.  If it is a joke, then I say well done
sir (or madam)[*].
But I fear it is not a joke, in which case I have a problem with the
first line.  If you want two of the states to be symbols (and there are
points later on that confirm that this is not a typo) then you need to
explain why early on.  You are free to define what you want, but a paper
that starts "let 2 < 1" will have the reader wrong-footed from the
start.
>
You mean q_accept and q_reject?  It looks like they are just to represent
the accept and reject states, not tape symbols?  Calling them symbols is
like calling q_0 a symbol, which seems harmless to me - is it just that you
want to call them "labels" or something other than "symbols"?

Later he/she writes

   (Omega U {q_accept, q_reject})*

where * is, presumably, the Kleene closure.  Omega is the set of
non-blank tape symbols of the TMs under discussion so these states are
used to make "strings" with other tape symbols.

I agree that what the states actually are is irrelevant, but that two of
them are later used like this is presumably important.

I don't fully get the notation though - e.g. it seems to me that the TMs
have tape symbols and states, but I don't see any state transition
table!

Right, but that's line 2 and I was starting at line 1!

I thought it might be joke because of the way the author just piles
definition on definition using bizarre notations like integral symbols
but apparently not.

--
Ben.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Sep 24 * Yet another contribution to the P-NP question42nnymous109
26 Sep 24 +* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question40wij
26 Sep 24 i+* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question36nnymous109
26 Sep 24 ii+* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question3André G. Isaak
26 Sep 24 iii`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2Mike Terry
26 Sep 24 iii `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1André G. Isaak
27 Sep 24 ii+* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question28Ben Bacarisse
27 Sep 24 iii+* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question25Mike Terry
27 Sep 24 iiii+- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
28 Sep 24 iiii`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question23Ben Bacarisse
28 Sep 24 iiii +* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question10Mike Terry
28 Sep 24 iiii i+- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Jeff Barnett
29 Sep 24 iiii i`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question8Ben Bacarisse
29 Sep 24 iiii i +* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question3Keith Thompson
29 Sep 24 iiii i i`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2Mike Terry
30 Sep 24 iiii i i `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Ben Bacarisse
29 Sep 24 iiii i +* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2Mike Terry
29 Sep 24 iiii i i`- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Ben Bacarisse
29 Sep 24 iiii i `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2nnymous109
30 Sep 24 iiii i  `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Ben Bacarisse
28 Sep 24 iiii `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question12nnymous109
29 Sep 24 iiii  `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question11Ben Bacarisse
29 Sep 24 iiii   `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question10nnymous109
29 Sep 24 iiii    +- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
29 Sep 24 iiii    +- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
30 Sep 24 iiii    `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question7Ben Bacarisse
30 Sep 24 iiii     +* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question5nnymous109
30 Sep 24 iiii     i+- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
1 Oct 24 iiii     i`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question3Ben Bacarisse
3 Oct 24 iiii     i `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2nnymous109
12 Oct 24 iiii     i  `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Ben Bacarisse
3 Oct 24 iiii     `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
27 Sep 24 iii`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2nnymous109
28 Sep 24 iii `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Ben Bacarisse
30 Sep 24 ii`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question4wij
3 Oct 24 ii `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question3nnymous109
3 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2wij
5 Oct 24 ii   `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109
27 Sep 24 i`* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question3Keith Thompson
27 Sep 24 i `* Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question2wij
27 Sep 24 i  `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1Keith Thompson
3 Oct 24 `- Re: Yet another contribution to the P-NP question1nnymous109

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