Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.

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Sujet : Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.
De : wyniijj5 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (wij)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Oct 2024, 18:11:40
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On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 11:42 +0100, Andy Walker wrote:
On 10/10/2024 16:26, wij wrote:
This "0.999...!=1" proof [...].
 
Any such proof would breach the Archimedean [Eudoxus] axiom, so
is not a proof about the real numbers.  You have been told that before.
If you propose to repeat this or to take it further, you /really, really/
do need to tell us what axioms you are using instead of those of the real
numbers.  Without that, your claims, whatever they may be, are worthless,
and no-one qualified to do so can comment more usefully.  WIYF.

Wij's Theorem: x>0 iff x/n >0, where n∈ℤ⁺.

Archimedes likely believes that all (real) numbers, including pi, sqrt(2), are
p/q representable. Is that what you suggest?
Archimedean axiom is an *assertion* that infinitesimal does not exist without
knowing the consequence (violating Wij's Theorem which is provable from the rules 
stronger than 'assertion').

This is for elementary school students, might help:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download



Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Oct 24 * Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.13wij
10 Oct 24 +* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.10wij
11 Oct 24 i`* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.9Andy Walker
11 Oct 24 i `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.8wij
11 Oct 24 i  `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.7Andy Walker
12 Oct 24 i   `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.6wij
12 Oct 24 i    `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.5Andy Walker
13 Oct 24 i     `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.4wij
13 Oct 24 i      `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.3Ben Bacarisse
14 Oct 24 i       `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.2wij
14 Oct 24 i        `- Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.1Ben Bacarisse
11 Oct 24 `* Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.2Mikko
11 Oct 24  `- Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable.1wij

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