Re: I am claiming that these exact words are necessarily true

On 10/13/2024 8:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 10/13/24 9:17 AM, olcott wrote:

On 10/13/2024 8:12 AM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 10/13/24 8:40 AM, olcott wrote:

I am not and never have been claiming anything
about incorrect paraphrases of these exact words:
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*HHH rejects DDD as non terminating*

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Which judst makes HHH wrong, since DDD will terminate, since that term applies to the PROGRAM that the input represents., and if HHH rejects it, it returns to its caller, and thus DDD will halt.
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void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
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When HHH is an x86 emulation based termination analyzer
then each DDD emulated by any HHH that it calls never returns.

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The emulation of DDD by HHH never reaches a final state, but it HHH aborts its emulation and return 0, then the PROGRAM DDD will return.
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Rebutting an incorrect paraphrase of my exact words
<is> the strawman deception.
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Each of the directly executed HHH emulator/analyzers that returns
0 correctly reports the above non-terminating behavior of its input.

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No, since termination is a property of the PROGRAM, and not a partial emuation of it, you answer is proven wrong, and you are guilty of using unsound logic.
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Rebutting an incorrect paraphrase of my exact words
<is> the strawman deception.
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 But I rebuted your exact words.

That statement is counter-factual.
I specifically refer to whether or not a specific C function
(source-code provided) reaches its own "return" instruction.
This <is> the correct measure for the termination analysis
of C functions.
Automated Termination Analysis of C Programs
https://publications.rwth-aachen.de/record/972440/files/972440.pdf
Figure 5.3: Non-Terminating C Function
You try to get away with the pure bluster of declaring that
this C function is not even a C function.

The fact that they are equivical is your own fault, since the other meaning, the one you seem to want to use, is based on a category error, it can't be correct. (partial emulation do not have a non-terminating property)
 

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