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Sujet : Re: The actual truth is that ... industry standard stipulative definitions
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 19. Oct 2024, 13:34:08
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On 10/19/2024 6:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-10-19 11:16:04 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 10/19/2024 3:52 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-10-17 00:19:15 +0000, olcott said:
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On 10/16/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 10/15/24 11:52 PM, olcott wrote:
On 10/15/2024 9:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 10/15/24 8:39 AM, olcott wrote:
On 10/15/2024 4:58 AM, joes wrote:
Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:12:37 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 10/14/2024 6:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 10/14/24 12:05 PM, olcott wrote:
On 10/14/2024 6:21 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 10/14/24 5:53 AM, olcott wrote:
On 10/14/2024 3:21 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-10-13 12:49:01 +0000, Richard Damon said:
On 10/12/24 8:11 PM, olcott wrote:
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Trying to change to a different analytical framework than the one that
I am stipulating is the strawman deception. *Essentially an
intentional fallacy of equivocation error*
But, you claim to be working on that Halting Problem,
I quit claiming this many messages ago and you didn't bother to notice.
Can you please give the date and time? Did you also explicitly disclaim
it or just silently leave it out?
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Even people of low intelligence that are not trying to
be as disagreeable as possible would be able to notice
that a specified C function is not a Turing machine.
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But it needs to be computationally equivalent to one to ask about Termination.
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Not at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_function
A termination analyzer need not be a Turing computable function.
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Strange, since any function that meets the requireemnt
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the function return values are identical for identical arguments (no variation with local static variables, non-local variables, mutable reference arguments or input streams, i.e., referential transparency),
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Is the equivalent of a Turing Machine.
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*According to the industry standard definitions that I stipulated*
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You can't stipulate that something is a standard.
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A c function terminates when it reaches its "return"
instruction. I stipulate this basic fact because you
disagree with basic facts. When it is stipulated then
your disagreement is necessarily incorrect.
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It is not a fact. It is a definition that excludes from the meaning
of "terminate" certain possibilities that could reasonably be called
"termination".
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Halting in computer science corresponds maps to normal
termination in software engineering. For C functions
reaching the "return" instruction is the only kind of
normal termination.
 An abnormal termination is usually regarded as a termination.
 
If we want to map to halting in the theory of
computation then abnormal termination is not available.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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