Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT

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Sujet : Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 16. Nov 2024, 04:57:41
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On 11/15/2024 9:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/15/24 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/15/2024 9:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/15/24 7:34 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/14/2024 8:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/14/24 9:38 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/14/2024 2:33 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/14/24 3:28 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/14/2024 2:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
joes <noreply@example.org> wrote:
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What are weasel words?
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Words whose precise meaning is difficult/impossible to pin down, and
deliberately so.  Politicians use these all the time.
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_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
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DDD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly reach its "ret"
instruction final halt state.
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But the emulation by HHH is NOT the DEFINITION of the behavior that HHH is suppoded to be reporting on.
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Right and likewise ZFC is "supposed to include" sets that
are members of themselves. Thus according to your reasoning
ZFC is wrong because is directly disobeys the dogma of
naive set theory.
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Where did I say that?
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You seem to be halucinationg.
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That behavior that HHH is supposed to be reporting on is the behavior of the actual direct exectution of the program described by the input,
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IN OTHER WORDS YOU ARE SAYING THAT HHH SHOULD STUPIDLY IGNORE
THE FACT THAT DDD DOES SPECIFY THAT HHH MUST EMULATE ITSELF
EMULATING DDD
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DDD doesn't "say" anything, it is a program that defines how it will run.
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The semantics of the x86 language specifies that HHH must
emulate itself emulating DDD.
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There is no "emulate" instruction.
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The semantics of the x86 language specifies that HHH must do as it is programmed, and that the correct emulation of it will do EXACTLY the same thing.
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When HHH <is> an x86 emulator
(are you too stupid to remember this?) Then
The semantics of the x86 language specifies that HHH must
emulate itself emulating DDD.
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 But it *ISN'T* one if it stops its emulation before it reaches the final end.
 
Sure it is you are just a liar.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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11 Nov 24 * Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?86joes
11 Nov 24 `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?85olcott
11 Nov 24  +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?4Richard Damon
12 Nov 24  i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?3olcott
12 Nov 24  i +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---Olcott is a liar!1Richard Damon
12 Nov 24  i `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1joes
12 Nov 24  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?80joes
12 Nov 24   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?79olcott
12 Nov 24    +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?8joes
12 Nov 24    i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?7olcott
12 Nov 24    i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?5joes
12 Nov 24    i i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?4olcott
12 Nov 24    i i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?2joes
12 Nov 24    i i i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1olcott
13 Nov 24    i i `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
13 Nov 24    i `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
13 Nov 24    +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
13 Nov 24    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?69Mikko
14 Nov 24     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?68olcott
14 Nov 24      +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
14 Nov 24      +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?49joes
14 Nov 24      i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT48olcott
14 Nov 24      i +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT44Richard Damon
14 Nov 24      i i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT43olcott
14 Nov 24      i i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT42Richard Damon
14 Nov 24      i i  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT41olcott
14 Nov 24      i i   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT40Richard Damon
14 Nov 24      i i    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT39olcott
14 Nov 24      i i     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT38Richard Damon
14 Nov 24      i i      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT37olcott
14 Nov 24      i i       +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT33joes
14 Nov 24      i i       i+- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1olcott
14 Nov 24      i i       i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT31Alan Mackenzie
14 Nov 24      i i       i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT30olcott
14 Nov 24      i i       i  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT29Richard Damon
15 Nov 24      i i       i   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT28olcott
15 Nov 24      i i       i    `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT27Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i     `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT26olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i      `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT25Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i       `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT24olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i        `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT23Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i         `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT22olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i          `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT21Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i           `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT20olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i            `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT19Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i             `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT18olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i              `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT17Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i               `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT16olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i                +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i                `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT14joes
16 Nov 24      i i       i                 `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT13olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i                  +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i                  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT11joes
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT6olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT5Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   i `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT4olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   i  `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT3Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   i   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT2olcott
17 Nov 24      i i       i                   i    `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1Richard Damon
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT2olcott
16 Nov 24      i i       i                   i`- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1Richard Damon
17 Nov 24      i i       i                   `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT2olcott
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14 Nov 24      i i        `* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT2olcott
14 Nov 24      i i         `- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---SUCCINCT1Richard Damon
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15 Nov 24        +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
15 Nov 24        +* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?11Mikko
16 Nov 24        i`* Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?10olcott
16 Nov 24        i +- Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?1Richard Damon
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