Re: The essence of my halting problem work

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Sujet : Re: The essence of my halting problem work
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Dec 2024, 14:44:02
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Am Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:52:07 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 12/10/2024 8:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/10/24 9:22 AM, olcott wrote:
On 12/10/2024 1:35 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-12-09 13:46:16 +0000, olcott said:
On 12/9/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-12-08 19:34:19 +0000, olcott said:
On 12/8/2024 4:55 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-12-05 04:20:50 +0000, olcott said:
On 12/4/2024 8:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/4/24 8:50 PM, olcott wrote:
On 12/4/2024 7:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/4/24 8:41 PM, olcott wrote:
On 12/4/2024 7:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/4/24 8:06 PM, olcott wrote:
On 12/4/2024 6:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/4/24 9:27 AM, olcott wrote:
On 12/3/2024 5:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/3/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote:
On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote:
Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote:

Everyone disagreeing with this has dishonestly used to strawman
deception to refer to different behavior than DD simulated by HHH.
>
The topic as specified on the subject line is the behaviour of DD
and what HHH should report. Simulation is not mentioned there.
>
I can't put more than a sentence on the subject line.
>
What you did put there specifies that the halting problem is on topic
and therefore is not "strawman".
>
>
In the specific aspect of the "do the opposite of whatever HHH says"
halting problem input DD, HHH does correctly reject DD as non-halting
on the basis that DD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly reach its own
final state.
 
 
Nope, sincr the program DD will halt and the program HHH says it will
not.
 
typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
int DD()
{
   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
   if (Halt_Status)
     HERE: goto HERE;
   return Halt_Status;
}
int main()
{
   HHH(DD);
}

(1) Halt Deciders / Termination analyzers compute the mapping from their
input finite string to the actual behavior that it specifies. NON-INPUTS
ARE NOT ALLOWED.
The input is DD. What do you think the non-input is?

(2) DD simulated/emulated by any HHH according to the semantics of the
C/x86 language cannot possibly reach it own final halt state.
HHH cannot simulate DD halting.

Your tactic of "rebutting" these truths is to change the subject
entirely. You never assess the exact words that I actually said.
Your exact words are wrong. Change the subject to what?

--
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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17 Nov 24 * HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar250olcott
17 Nov 24 +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar25Richard Damon
17 Nov 24 i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar24olcott
18 Nov 24 i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar23Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar22olcott
18 Nov 24 i   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar21Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i    `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar20olcott
18 Nov 24 i     +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
18 Nov 24 i     i `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i     `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar16joes
18 Nov 24 i      `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar15olcott
18 Nov 24 i       `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar14Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i        `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar13olcott
18 Nov 24 i         `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar12Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i          `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar11olcott
18 Nov 24 i           +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar5Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i           i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar4olcott
18 Nov 24 i           i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i           i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
19 Nov 24 i           i   `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i           `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar5Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i            `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar4olcott
18 Nov 24 i             `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i              `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
19 Nov 24 i               `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
17 Nov 24 +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar53Richard Damon
17 Nov 24 i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar52olcott
18 Nov 24 i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar51Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar50olcott
18 Nov 24 i   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar49Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i    `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar48olcott
18 Nov 24 i     `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar47Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i      `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar46olcott
18 Nov 24 i       +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar12Mikko
18 Nov 24 i       i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar11olcott
18 Nov 24 i       i +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar4Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i       i i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3olcott
19 Nov 24 i       i i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i       i i  `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Mikko
19 Nov 24 i       i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar6Mikko
20 Nov 24 i       i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar5olcott
20 Nov 24 i       i   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar4Mikko
21 Nov 24 i       i    `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3olcott
21 Nov 24 i       i     +- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
6 Dec 24 i       i     `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Mikko
18 Nov 24 i       +- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i       `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar32Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i        `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar31olcott
18 Nov 24 i         `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar30Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i          `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar29olcott
18 Nov 24 i           `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar28Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 i            `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar27olcott
18 Nov 24 i             +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i             i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
19 Nov 24 i             i `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
19 Nov 24 i             `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar23joes
19 Nov 24 i              `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar22olcott
19 Nov 24 i               +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar18joes
19 Nov 24 i               i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar17olcott
20 Nov 24 i               i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar16Richard Damon
20 Nov 24 i               i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar15olcott
20 Nov 24 i               i   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar14Richard Damon
21 Nov 24 i               i    `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar13olcott
21 Nov 24 i               i     `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar12Richard Damon
21 Nov 24 i               i      `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar11olcott
21 Nov 24 i               i       `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar10Richard Damon
21 Nov 24 i               i        `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar9olcott
21 Nov 24 i               i         `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar8Richard Damon
21 Nov 24 i               i          `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar7olcott
21 Nov 24 i               i           `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar6Richard Damon
21 Nov 24 i               i            `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar5olcott
21 Nov 24 i               i             +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3joes
21 Nov 24 i               i             i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
22 Nov 24 i               i             i `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
22 Nov 24 i               i             `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
20 Nov 24 i               `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
20 Nov 24 i                `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
20 Nov 24 i                 `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
18 Nov 24 `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar171Mikko
18 Nov 24  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar170olcott
18 Nov 24   +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar3Richard Damon
18 Nov 24   i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2olcott
19 Nov 24   i `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
19 Nov 24   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar166Mikko
20 Nov 24    `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar165olcott
20 Nov 24     `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar164Mikko
21 Nov 24      `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar163olcott
21 Nov 24       +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar35Richard Damon
21 Nov 24       i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar34olcott
21 Nov 24       i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar33Richard Damon
21 Nov 24       i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar32olcott
21 Nov 24       i   +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar30joes
21 Nov 24       i   i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar29olcott
22 Nov 24       i   i +- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
22 Nov 24       i   i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar27joes
22 Nov 24       i   i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar26olcott
22 Nov 24       i   i   +* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar23joes
22 Nov 24       i   i   i`* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar22olcott
22 Nov 24       i   i   i `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar21joes
22 Nov 24       i   i   i  `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar20olcott
22 Nov 24       i   i   `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar2Richard Damon
22 Nov 24       i   `- Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar1Richard Damon
21 Nov 24       `* Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar127Mikko

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