Far less than no rebuttal at all

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Sujet : Far less than no rebuttal at all
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 03. Mar 2025, 18:31:09
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On 3/3/2025 6:26 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/2/25 11:35 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/2/2025 9:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/2/25 9:59 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/2/2025 6:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/2/25 9:18 AM, olcott wrote:
On 3/2/2025 3:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-03-02 07:45:26 +0000, joes said:
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Am Sun, 02 Mar 2025 02:28:14 +0000 schrieb Mr Flibble:
Stop stealing my idea: it is Copyright 2022 Mr Flibble.
May I note that useless or wrong ideas are not patentable.
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No patent was claimed, only copyright. But copyright does not protect ideas,
only particular presentations of those ideas, to some extent.
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For example the term "simulating halt decider" and
"simulating termination analyzer" have been copyrighted
by me for many years. I do this to establish academic
credit for these underlying ideas.
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Can't be, You can't "Copyright" words, only creative works.
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Your papers on the topic can be, but not the terms.
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Terms can be protected under "Trademark", but that has a cost to register, and also you have to show a comercial purpose, and can't be just an ordinary term of art that describes your thing.
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So, if you paid a lawyer to actually copyright the terms, you wasted money and got had. Just like if some lawyer suggested that you could get a copyright on such a term.
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That every reference to the term "simulating halt decider"
in a Google search pulls up pages and pages of me establishes
that I am the creator of the notion of a "simulating halt decider"
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Nope, just that you don;t understand what you are talking about.
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That it is in the literature from over half a century ago just proves you didn't create the idea.
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You may have created that exact name, but not the concept.
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Note, you didn't say anything about how you are LYING about having a "Copyright" on that name/concept, maybe because you realize you don't know what you are talking about.
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that correctly determines that DD correctly emulated by HHH
cannot possibly reach its own "return" instruction and
terminate normally.
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Excpet that is a lying strawman, proving you are just a stupid fraud.
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Maybe you are simply a troll that has never understood
any of these technical details. I can't remember any
technical analysis that you ever did that was technically
correct.
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 Really? What of my analysis is actually incorrect?
 
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
The above code proves that:
(a) HHH correctly emulates itself emulating DD.
(b) DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
(c) The behavior of the input to HHH(DD) is different
than the behavior of the directly executed DD because
DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation and the directly
executed DD does not call HHH(DD) in recursive emulation.
That you don't understand tha this code proves this
is far less than no rebuttal at all.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Mar 25 * DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code96olcott
1 Mar 25 +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code8dbush
1 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code7olcott
1 Mar 25 i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1wij
1 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code4dbush
1 Mar 25 i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3olcott
1 Mar 25 i i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1dbush
1 Mar 25 i i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1dbush
1 Mar 25 i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1dbush
1 Mar 25 +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code52Mikko
2 Mar 25 i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code51olcott
2 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code41dbush
2 Mar 25 i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code40olcott
2 Mar 25 i i `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code39dbush
2 Mar 25 i i  `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code38olcott
2 Mar 25 i i   `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code37dbush
2 Mar 25 i i    `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code36olcott
2 Mar 25 i i     +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1dbush
2 Mar 25 i i     `* Copyright34joes
2 Mar 25 i i      `* Re: Copyright33Mikko
2 Mar 25 i i       `* Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years32olcott
2 Mar 25 i i        +* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years14Richard Heathfield
2 Mar 25 i i        i`* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years13olcott
2 Mar 25 i i        i +* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years11Andy Walker
2 Mar 25 i i        i i`* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct10olcott
2 Mar 25 i i        i i +- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct1Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        i i `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct8Andy Walker
3 Mar 25 i i        i i  `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct7olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i i   `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct6Fred. Zwarts
3 Mar 25 i i        i i    `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct5olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i i     +* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct2joes
3 Mar 25 i i        i i     i`- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct1olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i i     +- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct1Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i i        i i     `- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years --- proves itself correct1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25 i i        i `- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years1Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        +* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years14Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        i`* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years13olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i +* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years9Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        i i`* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years8olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i i `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years7Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        i i  +* Far less than no rebuttal at all5olcott
3 Mar 25 i i        i i  i+* Re: Far less than no rebuttal at all3Fred. Zwarts
3 Mar 25 i i        i i  ii`* Re: Far less than no rebuttal at all2olcott
4 Mar 25 i i        i i  ii `- Re: Far less than no rebuttal at all1Fred. Zwarts
4 Mar 25 i i        i i  i`- Re: Far less than no rebuttal at all1Richard Damon
4 Mar 25 i i        i i  `- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years1Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        i `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years3Fred. Zwarts
3 Mar 25 i i        i  `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years2olcott
4 Mar 25 i i        i   `- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years1Richard Damon
3 Mar 25 i i        `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years3Mikko
3 Mar 25 i i         `* Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years2olcott
4 Mar 25 i i          `- Re: Copyright for "simulating halt decider" by Olcott for many years1Mikko
2 Mar 25 i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code5Richard Damon
2 Mar 25 i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code4olcott
2 Mar 25 i i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
2 Mar 25 i i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Mikko
2 Mar 25 i i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25 i `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code4Mikko
2 Mar 25 i  `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3olcott
2 Mar 25 i   +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1wij
3 Mar 25 i   `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
1 Mar 25 +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25 `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code34Richard Damon
1 Mar 25  `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code33olcott
1 Mar 25   +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code15Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25   i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code14olcott
1 Mar 25   i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code12Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25   i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code11olcott
1 Mar 25   i i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3Fred. Zwarts
2 Mar 25   i i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code2olcott
2 Mar 25   i i i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
1 Mar 25   i i `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code7Fred. Zwarts
2 Mar 25   i i  `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code6olcott
2 Mar 25   i i   +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3Richard Damon
2 Mar 25   i i   i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code2olcott
2 Mar 25   i i   i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25   i i   +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
2 Mar 25   i i   `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25   i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
1 Mar 25   `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code17Richard Damon
1 Mar 25    `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code16olcott
1 Mar 25     +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code8Fred. Zwarts
1 Mar 25     i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code7olcott
1 Mar 25     i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
1 Mar 25     i +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code4Fred. Zwarts
2 Mar 25     i i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3olcott
2 Mar 25     i i +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25     i i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
2 Mar 25     i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
1 Mar 25     `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code7Richard Damon
2 Mar 25      `* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code6olcott
2 Mar 25       +* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code3Richard Damon
2 Mar 25       i`* Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code2olcott
2 Mar 25       i `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Richard Damon
2 Mar 25       +- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1joes
2 Mar 25       `- Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code1Fred. Zwarts

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