Re: Correcting the definition of the halting problem --- Computable functions

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Sujet : Re: Correcting the definition of the halting problem --- Computable functions
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 25. Mar 2025, 22:29:11
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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:01:14 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 3/25/2025 3:47 AM, joes wrote:

A pure simulator can not limit the number of steps. Also III doesn't
halt in, say, 3 steps. Why should III call a different instance that
doesn't abort, when it is being simulated?
 
The fact that the same states in the program-under-test keep repeating
such that the program-under-test cannot possibly reach its own final
halt state proves that program-under-test does not halt.
They don't repeat, though, not in the same stack frame. And the test
program is part of the program under test. Can you answer my question?

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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