Re: Turing computable functions

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Sujet : Re: Turing computable functions
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 26. Mar 2025, 10:59:41
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Am Tue, 25 Mar 2025 16:42:09 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 3/25/2025 4:02 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/25/2025 4:50 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/25/2025 3:05 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/25/2025 3:47 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/25/2025 2:32 PM, dbush wrote:
On 3/25/2025 3:24 PM, olcott wrote:

cannot possibly report on the behavior of any directly executing
process. No Turing machine can every do this. This has always been
beyond what any Turing machine can ever do.
>
Strawman: reporting on an executing process is not a requirement.
>
YOU JUST SAID THAT IT WAS YOU KEEP MINDLESSLY REPEATING THAT IT IS
On 3/25/2025 2:32 PM, dbush wrote:
 > (<X>,Y) maps to 1 if and only if X(Y) halts when executed
 > directly
>
I never said it had to actually watch an executing process, only
report what would happen if it did run.
>
*It has been conclusively proven as a verified*
*fact many hundreds of times over several years*
That the behavior that the finite string input specifies
 
Is
NOT ALWAYS
Should be.

the behavior of directly executing the described Turing machine.
Then the simulator is broken.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Mar 25 * Turing computable functions39olcott
25 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions13dbush
25 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions12olcott
25 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions10dbush
25 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions9olcott
25 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions4dbush
25 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions3olcott
25 Mar 25 i i i +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1joes
25 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions3joes
25 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
25 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions11joes
25 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)10olcott
25 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)8Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)7olcott
26 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)3joes
26 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)2olcott
27 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i `* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)3Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i  `* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)2olcott
27 Mar 25 i i   `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Fred. Zwarts
25 Mar 25 +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions12Mikko
26 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions11olcott
27 Mar 25 i +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
27 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions3Mikko
27 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
28 Mar 25 i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Mikko
27 Mar 25 i `* Re: Turing computable functions6Fred. Zwarts
27 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Turing computable functions5olcott
27 Mar 25 i   +* Re: Turing computable functions3Fred. Zwarts
28 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
28 Mar 25 i   i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
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