Re: Turing computable functions

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Sujet : Re: Turing computable functions
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 27. Mar 2025, 00:01:53
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On 3/26/25 12:25 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/26/2025 2:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-03-25 19:24:07 +0000, olcott said:
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Cannot possibly derive any outputs not computed from
their inputs.
>
A Turing machine halt decider cannot possibly report
on the behavior of any directly executing process.
>
It can if that report is a computable function of their inputs.
For example, whether the direct execution of another Turing machine
is longer than 2 steps is Turing computable.
>
 When an input to a simulating termination analyzer
defines a pathological relationship to its simulating
termination analyzer this changes the behavior of this
input relative to its direct execution.
No it doesn't. Where do you get that from, since the DEFINITION of the behavior is that of the direct execution of the program it represents.

 Simulating termination analyzers only report on the
behavior that their input specifies.
WHich *IS* the behavior of the direct execution of the program the input specified.

 When an input to a simulating termination analyzer
defines a pathological relationship to its simulating
termination analyzer this changes the behavior of this
input relative to its direct execution.
No, it doesn't
Source for your claim?
Or are you just going to by defautl admit your source is your own fraudulent ideas.

 Simulating termination analyzers only report on the
behavior that their input specifies.
Which is DEFINED to be the behavior of the program the input represents.
PERIOD.

 HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS BEFORE
YOU NOTICE THAT I SAID IT AT LEAST ONCE?
 
Your problem is that you statements are just lies, which people ignore and point you to the correct meaning of the words.
Of course, it seems you are just too stupid to see that because you have brainwashed yourself into believing your lies over the defined truth.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Mar 25 * Turing computable functions39olcott
25 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions13dbush
25 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions12olcott
25 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions10dbush
25 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions9olcott
25 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions4dbush
25 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions3olcott
25 Mar 25 i i i +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1joes
25 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions3joes
25 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
25 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions11joes
25 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)10olcott
25 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)8Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)7olcott
26 Mar 25 i i +* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)3joes
26 Mar 25 i i i`* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)2olcott
27 Mar 25 i i i `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i `* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)3Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i i  `* Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)2olcott
27 Mar 25 i i   `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i `- Re: Turing computable functions --- EEE(III)1Fred. Zwarts
25 Mar 25 +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 +* Re: Turing computable functions12Mikko
26 Mar 25 i`* Re: Turing computable functions11olcott
27 Mar 25 i +- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
27 Mar 25 i +* Re: Turing computable functions3Mikko
27 Mar 25 i i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
28 Mar 25 i i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Mikko
27 Mar 25 i `* Re: Turing computable functions6Fred. Zwarts
27 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Turing computable functions5olcott
27 Mar 25 i   +* Re: Turing computable functions3Fred. Zwarts
28 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: Turing computable functions2olcott
28 Mar 25 i   i `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
28 Mar 25 i   `- Re: Turing computable functions1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 `- Re: Turing computable functions1Fred. Zwarts

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