Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV

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Sujet : Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV
De : jbb (at) *nospam* notatt.com (Jeff Barnett)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 28. Mar 2025, 20:05:10
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On 3/28/2025 8:14 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:01:40 +0200, Mikko wrote:
 
On 2025-03-19 16:11:18 +0000, Mikko said:
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On 2025-03-19 14:32:30 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 12:26:20 +0200, Mikko wrote:
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On 2025-03-18 14:08:50 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 15:59:45 +0200, Mikko wrote:
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On 2025-03-17 16:53:01 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:21:05 +0200, Mikko wrote:
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On 2025-03-16 18:40:42 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 12:28:24 +0200, Mikko wrote:
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On 2025-03-15 15:08:47 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 11:55:52 +0200, Mikko wrote:
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On 2025-03-15 04:00:52 +0000, Mr Flibble said:
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Hi!
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neos universal compiler (that can compile any programming
language)
is successfully running the tokenization stage tokenizing a
program written in the neos reference language. #cpp #coding
#compiler #compsci #gamedev
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/Flibble
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Can it tokenize FORTRAN 60 or FORTRAN IV ?
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ANY programming language.
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/Flibble
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How is neos configured to tokenize FORTRAN 60 ?
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The same way you would configure it for any other programming
language.
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If it is configured the same for each programming language then
how does it know how to tokenize?
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You configure it by providing a language specific neosBNF schema
(grammar)
file (an input to the compilalation process).
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Is there a neosBNF schema that describes the tokens of FORtRAN 66
or Algol 60?
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Not yet.
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The definition of string literal of Algol 60 would be a good example
of something that cannot be defined with a regular expression and is
therefore impossible or at least complicated with an ordinary
tokenizer.
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neos does not use regular expressions and the neos grammar is context
sensitive (i.e. not context free).
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A context free grammar should be enough for tokenizing strings of Algol
60.
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Tokenizing statements of FORTRAN 66 is a harder problem.
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Some test cases for a FORTRAN IV tokenizer:
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         REALITY IS, AS I MAY LOGICALLY SAY, REAL LOGICAL = WHAT I SAY
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Note that these lines begin with 8 spaces.
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Tokens on the first line:
keyword REAL identifier ITYIS comma identifier ASIMAY end of statement
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Tokens on the second line:
keyword LOGICAL identifier LYSAY comma identifier REAL end of statement
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Tokens on the third line:
identifier LOGICAL assignment symbol identifier WHAT I SAY
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Parser needs to know whether an instance of REAL or LOGICAL is an
identifier or keyword.
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I don't understand how neos can be configred to tokenize the above test
lines and other FORTRAN IV statements.
 If a native FORTRAN IV compiler can parse it then neos can parse it as
long as it is somehow expressable in the neos attribute grammar.
But that was the question: Can it be parsed in a neos expressible grammar? Note that those early Fortran grammars were 1) not finite state, 2) not context free, and 3) inherently ambiguous.It was possible, for example, to write a "format" and an "assignment" statement that were character to character identical. As an aside, a friend who wrote an early Fortran compiler that compiled such a chimera so that it would do an assignment if executed and could be referenced as a format from an IO statement.
--
Jeff Barnett

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Mar 25 * Re: neos Universal Compiler35Mikko
16 Mar 25 +* Re: neos Universal Compiler28Mikko
17 Mar 25 i`* Re: neos Universal Compiler27Mikko
18 Mar 25 i `* Re: neos Universal Compiler26Mikko
18 Mar 25 i  +* Re: neos Universal Compiler4Richard Heathfield
18 Mar 25 i  i`* Re: neos Universal Compiler3Richard Heathfield
18 Mar 25 i  i `* Re: neos Universal Compiler2Richard Heathfield
18 Mar 25 i  i  `- Re: neos Universal Compiler1Richard Heathfield
18 Mar 25 i  +- Re: neos Universal Compiler1Andy Walker
19 Mar 25 i  `* Re: neos Universal Compiler20Mikko
19 Mar 25 i   +* Re: neos Universal Compiler4Alan Mackenzie
19 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: neos Universal Compiler3Mikko
20 Mar 25 i   i `* Re: neos Universal Compiler2Alan Mackenzie
20 Mar 25 i   i  `- Re: neos Universal Compiler1Mikko
19 Mar 25 i   `* Re: neos Universal Compiler15Mikko
28 Mar 25 i    `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV14Mikko
28 Mar 25 i     +* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV5Jeff Barnett
29 Mar 25 i     i`* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV4Jeff Barnett
29 Mar 25 i     i `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV3Jeff Barnett
29 Mar 25 i     i  `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV2Jeff Barnett
30 Mar 25 i     i   `- Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV1Richard Heathfield
29 Mar 25 i     `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV8Mikko
29 Mar 25 i      `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV7Richard Heathfield
29 Mar 25 i       +- Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV1Richard Heathfield
30 Mar 25 i       +* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV3Mikko
30 Mar 25 i       i`* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV2Richard Heathfield
31 Mar 25 i       i `- Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV1Mikko
30 Mar 25 i       `* Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV2Mikko
31 Mar 25 i        `- Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV1Mikko
16 Mar 25 +* Re: neos Universal Compiler2Richard Heathfield
17 Mar 25 i`- Re: neos Universal Compiler1Mikko
30 Mar 25 `* Re: neos Universal Compiler4Keith Thompson
30 Mar 25  +- Re: neos Universal Compiler1joes
30 Mar 25  `* Re: neos Universal Compiler2Mikko
31 Mar 25   `- Re: neos Universal Compiler1Mikko

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