Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof

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Sujet : Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof
De : rjh (at) *nospam* cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 09. Apr 2025, 18:52:43
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On 09/04/2025 18:30, wij wrote:
On Wed, 2025-04-09 at 18:10 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 09/04/2025 17:45, wij wrote:
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Stick to the problem. Such puzzle won't prove the "0.999... problem".
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You know what? You're right. 1/3 is irrational, 1 is infinite, 3
is unnatural, and Achilles never did catch the tortoise. I don't
know what I was thinking, claiming that rationals are rational!
Clearly the arithmetic I learned at school was deeply flawed, and
I was naif to think it could be trusted. How happy I am, now that
I have learned the truth from some faceless bloke on the
Internet. Well done you, eh? 1/3 is irrational; who knew?
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 1/3 is rational "by definition".
I know.

0.333... (repeating decimal) is irrational.
If you say so, that's good enough for me. I'll let my old school know. They'll be appalled to hear they've been teaching it wrong all these years.

Achilles puzzle gives us two models. One can catch the tortoise, one
cannot. Since we believe Achilles can, so it make? people to believe
0.99.... will finish (false from the other model. Also the term
'repeating' implies (define) never terminate)
You make it sound like Wij's Ant is busily calculating all the digits. Look up "pattern" when you get a second and give the ant a rest.
Achilles's race gives us /one/ model with /one/ solution that we can reach two different ways. We can use the equations of motion or we can use the sum of an infinite series. Both ways give the same answer - the precise moment when Achilles overtakes the tortoise and proves that infinite series can converge despite your objection.
But hey! Maybe the equations of motion are wrong too. Why stop at maths when you can tear down physics at the same time?
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Richard Heathfield
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