Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof

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Sujet : Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof
De : wyniijj5 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (wij)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Apr 2025, 12:52:20
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On Fri, 2025-04-11 at 04:21 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 2025-04-10 at 17:23 -0700, Keith Thompson wrote:
wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
"lim(x->c) f(x)=L" means the limit of f approaching c is L, not f(c)=L 'eventually'.
f at c is not defined (handled) in limit.
 
Correct.
 
lim 0.333...=1/3    ... The *limit* is 1/3, not 0.333...=1/3
0.3+0.33+0.333+...  ... The sequence converges to 1/3
Σ(n=1,∞) 3/10^n     ... The sum converges to 1/3 (or you can use lim)
 
The limit as the number of 3s increases without bound *is exactly what
we mean* by the notation "0.333...".  Once you understand that, it's
obvious that 0.333... is exactly equal to 1/3, and that 0.333... is a
rational number.
 
You agree "f at c is not defined (handled) in limit", yet, on the other hand
ASSERTING 0.333... is 'exactly' 1/3 from limit? Are you nut?
 
As usual, you need to prove what you say. Or you are just showing yourself
another olcott, just blink belief, nothing else.
 
Keep the insults to yourself.  Last warning.

I still think 'nut' is a common word, at least a terse word for people saying
one thing and doing the other (or a liar more appropriate?)

My assertion is simply about what the "..." notation means.
 
Do you agree that the limit of 0.3, 0.33, 0.333, as the number of 3s
increases without bound, is exactly 1/3?  (You said so above.)

Increases without bound -> yes
is exactly 1/3 -> no such logic

What exactly do you think the notation "0.333..." means?  I and many
others use that notation to mean the limit, which you agree is exactly
1/3.  

Is this a lie? I have always consistently claiming "repeating decimals are irrational".

Why do you object to the use of that particular notation for that
particular concept?
 

Illogic

Do you have any mathematical argument that isn't purely about notation
that you dislike?

???

Would, say "0.333<∞>" be clearer?  Could you agree that that refers to
the limit and gives a result that's exactly 1/3?  

0.333... approaches 1/3 --> no problem.
0.333... equals exactly to 1/3 --> no way (I have provided proofs and you don't).

If so, why do you
object to "..." but not to "<∞>" as a symbol for the limit?  (Note that
"..." is easier to type, unless you happen to have an ∞ key your
keyboard.)

Who say I object the use of "..."?
As said, it is 'the limit', not exactly equal (as explained)

As usual, you still only have irrelevant garbage talk, no valid logic proof..
If so, I can choose to stop responding.


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9 Apr 25 i  `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof26Richard Heathfield
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9 Apr 25 i    `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof24Richard Heathfield
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9 Apr 25 i      `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof22Richard Heathfield
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11 Apr 25 i            `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof16Keith Thompson
11 Apr 25 i             `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof15wij
11 Apr 25 i              +* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof8Alan Mackenzie
11 Apr 25 i              i`* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof7wij
11 Apr 25 i              i `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof6Richard Damon
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11 Apr 25 i              i   `* Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof3Richard Damon
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11 Apr 25 i              i     `- Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof1Richard Damon
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