Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error

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Sujet : Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error
De : Keith.S.Thompson+u (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Keith Thompson)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 20. Apr 2025, 02:00:31
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Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> writes:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:34:40 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
[...]
Note, The input in the Linz proof doesn't HAVE a "self-reference", the
program just references (by copying) the decider it is to refute, and it
is given an input that just happens to be a representation of itself,
which is a valid input. The input doesn't "Reference" the
contray-program, it just has a description/copy of it.
 
Note, Turing Machines don't HAVE "References" as a fundamental
elelement, so can't be self-referenential
>
False: the self-referential category error is still extant no matter what
representation of the pathological input is passed to the decider.

Then define rigorously what "pathological input" means (you haven't
yet done so), and explain whether the program I previously described
that tests Goldbach's Conjecture is "pathological" or not (you
haven't addressed that at all, unless I missed something).

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Apr 25 * Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders25Keith Thompson
18 Apr 25 `* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders24Keith Thompson
18 Apr 25  +- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders1Richard Damon
18 Apr 25  +* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders2Keith Thompson
18 Apr 25  i`- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders1Alan Mackenzie
19 Apr 25  `* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders20olcott
19 Apr 25   +* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders2Fred. Zwarts
19 Apr 25   i`- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders1Keith Thompson
19 Apr 25   `* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders17Richard Damon
19 Apr 25    `* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders16Richard Damon
19 Apr 25     +- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders1Alan Mackenzie
19 Apr 25     +* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders4Keith Thompson
19 Apr 25     i`* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error 23olcott
20 Apr 25     i +- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error 21Richard Damon
20 Apr 25     i `- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error 21Fred. Zwarts
19 Apr 25     +* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error9olcott
19 Apr 25     i+- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error1olcott
20 Apr 25     i+- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error1Richard Damon
20 Apr 25     i+* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error3Richard Damon
20 Apr 25     ii+- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error1Keith Thompson
20 Apr 25     ii`- o,1Richard Damon
22 Apr 25     i`* Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders --- category error3joes
22 Apr 25     i `* The conventional HP is a Category Error2olcott
22 Apr 25     i  `- Re: The conventional HP is a Category Error1Richard Damon
20 Apr 25     `- Re: Unpartial Halt Deciders1Richard Damon

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