Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine

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Date : 22. Apr 2025, 09:42:57
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On 2025-04-21 20:44:50 +0000, olcott said:

On 4/21/2025 4:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-04-20 19:27:08 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 4/20/2025 2:19 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:54:55 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
 
On 4/20/25 1:53 PM, olcott wrote:
On 4/20/2025 11:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 4/20/25 tic 1:33 AM, olcott wrote:
No counter-example to the above statement exists for all computation
and all human reasoning that can be expressed in language.
 But can all Human reasoning be actually expressed in language?
 For instance, how do you express the smell of a rose in a finite
string so you can do reasoning with it?
 
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/analytic-synthetic/
 all human reasoning that can be expressed in language <is> the
{analytic} side of the analytic/synthetic distinction that humanity has
totally screwed up since
 But it isn't, and that is YOUR screw up. Part of the problem is that the
phrase "True by the meaning of the words alone", doesn't actually have
meaning in a Natural Language context, as words have vaired, imprecise,
and even spectrums of meaning, perhaps even multiple meanings at once.
(This is even a form of word play used to convey special meanings).
 
Two Dogmas of Empiricism Willard Van Orman Quine
https://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html
 Couldn't even understand that the term Bachelor as stipulated to have
the semantic meaning of Bachelor(x) ≡ ~Married(x) ∧ Male(x) ∧ Adult(x)
∧ Human(x)
 
No, the point he was making was that this is NOT the only possible
meaning of Bachelor.
 Sorry, you are just showing you don't understand the arguments that you
read, because the go over your head, and then YOU just assume theny must
be wrong.
 Sorry, all that shows is your stupidity and ignorance.
 Attack the argument not the person.
 /Flibble
 Richard does this to try to get away with masking his own
complete ignorance of any of the words that I just used.
 No, he isn't. His motivation is different from yours.
 He is an intelligent and knowledgeable troll.
He is intelligent and knowledgeable and can justify his claims.
You are a troll that just repeats but does not argue.
--
Mikko

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20 Apr 25 * All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations98olcott
20 Apr 25 +* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations96Richard Damon
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21 Apr 25 iiiii i +* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine4Richard Damon
21 Apr 25 iiiii i i`* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine3olcott
21 Apr 25 iiiii i i +- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Richard Damon
22 Apr 25 iiiii i i `- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Mikko
21 Apr 25 iiiii i `* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine4Mikko
21 Apr 25 iiiii i  `* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine3olcott
21 Apr 25 iiiii i   +- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Richard Damon
22 Apr 25 iiiii i   `- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Mikko
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21 Apr 25 iiiii  `* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine4olcott
21 Apr 25 iiiii   +- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Alan Mackenzie
22 Apr 25 iiiii   +- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Richard Damon
22 Apr 25 iiiii   `- Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine1Mikko
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21 Apr 25 iiiii i `* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine3Richard Damon
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23 Apr 25 iii   i `* Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite string transformations --- Quine2Richard Damon
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