Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)

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Sujet : Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. May 2025, 00:23:28
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On 5/10/25 4:58 PM, olcott wrote:
On 5/10/2025 3:45 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/10/2025 3:07 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2025 18:48:12 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
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olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/10/2025 7:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
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[ .... ]
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I guess that not even a professor of theoretical computer science
would spend years working on so few lines of code.
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I created a whole x86utm operating system.
It correctly determines that the halting problem's otherwise
"impossible" input is actually non halting.
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You've spent over 20 years on this matter.  Compare this with Alan
Turing's solution of the Entscheidungsproblem.  He published this in
1936 when he was just 24 years old.
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Turing didn't solve anything: what he published contained a mistake: the
category (type) error that I have described previously in this forum.
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What arrogant self-important ignorance!  Turing indeed solved the
Entscheidungsproblem.  His procedure has been verified by hundreds of
thousands of mathematicians over the last century, and none of them have
found flaws in it.
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It is overwhelmingly likely that your lack of mathematical training has
led you to delude yourself about finding an error.  The same applies to
Peter Olcott.
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/Flibble
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Once we understand ....
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[ Irrelevant stuff deleted ]
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That's the whole point.  You _don't_ understand
 I DO UNDERSTAND and your carefully memorized dogma
has no actual understanding to it. No one has been
able to point out an actual mistake in the essence
of my reasoning for a long time.
Sure we have, you just don't understand actual logic.

 _DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
And thos 18 bytes don't contain the code for HHH, and thus NOTHING can correctly emulate this input, as it doesn't represent a PROGRAM.

 THESE WORDS ARE A TRUSISM
When HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input DDD
to the behavior that this input specifies when DDD is
emulated by HHH according to the rules of the x86
language ...
No. it is a LIE as it is IMPOSSIBE for ANY emulator to see the behavior of this input per the x86 language, as the required information is not in it.

 Everyone either changes the subject or changes my
words in their rebuttal.
Nope, you are just too stupid to understand the replies.

 The key rebuttal is essentially:
"that is not the way that I memorized it".
 
Nope, that is not the way it has been DEFINED.
The problem is that you think you get to ignore the definitoins, but you don't. which is what just makes you a liar.

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