Re: Flibble’s Leap: Why Behavioral Divergence Implies a Type Distinction in the Halting Problem

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Sujet : Re: Flibble’s Leap: Why Behavioral Divergence Implies a Type Distinction in the Halting Problem
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. May 2025, 18:44:51
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On 5/11/2025 12:34 PM, dbush wrote:
On 5/11/2025 1:14 PM, olcott wrote:
On 5/11/2025 11:54 AM, dbush wrote:
On 5/11/2025 12:49 PM, olcott wrote:
The category error is actually the fact that everyone
here expects a termination analyzer to report on behavior
other than the behavior that its input finite string
actually specifies.
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That's because it's whether or not the algorithm described by the input halts when executed directly.
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No one cares what "the behavior that its input finite string specifies" because that's not what we asked about.
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int sum(int x, int y) { return x + y ; }
when you ask about the sum of 5 + 7 using sum(3,2)
you are asking the wrong question.
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HHH reports on the behavior that DDD specifies.
sum reports on the sum that its inputs specify.
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 Category error.  (2,3) is not (5,7), but (DDD) is (DDD).
 
DDD correctly emulated by HHH SPECIFIES RECURSIVE EMULATION
DDD correctly emulated by HHH1 DOES NOT SPECIFY RECURSIVE EMULATION
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