Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong

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De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 15. May 2025, 16:13:50
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On 5/15/2025 1:27 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
Peter is right to say that the halting problem as defined is flawed: he
agrees with me that there is category error at the heart of the problem
definition whereby the decider is conflated with the program being
analysed in an ill-formed self-referential dependency that manifests in
his simulating halt decider as "aborted" infinite recursion.
 Peter however is wrong to say that aborting his infinite recursion is
equivalant to a halting state of non-halting: the truth is pathlogical
input is undecidable: that part Turing et al got right.
 /Flibble
Introduction to the Theory of Computation 3rd Edition
by Michael Sipser (Author)
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https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael-Sipser/dp/113318779X <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
     input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
     would never stop running unless aborted then
     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
HHH does correctly reject DDD and DD according
to the exact meaning of the above words. It also
seems to me that those words are a truism.
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15 May 25 * Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong9olcott
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16 May 25 +* Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong3Mikko
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16 May 25 `* Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong4Mikko
16 May 25  `* Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong3olcott
16 May 25   +- Re: Why Peter Olcott is both right and wrong1Fred. Zwarts
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